enough!

Ladies and Gentlemen:

Not to sound rude or hateful, but...

Do we HAVE to go through this "What do you think about my sorority on your campus?" crap???

All chapters at all schools are going to be DIFFERENT!!! You should all be receiving your soro/frat publications, so you can SEE FOR YOURSELF what other chapters are doing! Who wants to hear "...well actually your soro/frat SUCKS on my campus..."! That isn't exactly what needs to be promoted on here! If I hadn't transferred to the school I'm in now, I WOULDN'T be a member of my organization! Not because AAA isn't good on this campus, they're just different than my chapter! If you want to know about another chapter, send them some email or mail or something (that's what I did when I moved!)
I just think we need to focus on more productive greek issues!

[Asia2000]

while we are complaining, can we please kill the caps in the posts. I really want to read all the entries in a thread, but those caps make it nearly illegible.

[bklyndelta]

I agree, wholeheartedly with my fellow greeks and sisterfriends regarding this issue. I am appalled by the number of non-NPHC ladies and gentlemen who post negative experiences they have had with specific members and/or chapters of various organizations. If you take a look at some of the forums, in Greekchat alone, this is evident! And what makes it even worse is that some members of these BGLO'S see this "mudslinging" as okay and begin to "second their motion"...so to speak.

If non-NPHC members have nothing but negativity to post then maybe they should be barred from this forum! There is too much division and negativity amongst the BGLO'S already.

"Are we really that desperate that we need to feed our egos by partaking in such trivial B.S.?" That's just my $19.13!

P.S. Do not hold an entire organization accountable for the stupidity of a small few!

[AXO Alum]

This is how I view the whole issue... there are many different chapters with many different members so there's bound to be some difference among them (I know - I'm a real rocket scientist )

Its sort of like your last name. There are (most likely) a TON of people that share the same last name as you. Does that mean they are all good people, or all bad people, according to what kind of person you are? I would hope not. The point is that you didn't (most likely) choose your last name - and you certainly can't control who else has your last name. So are you going to be on a message board saying "What are people with the last name Smith like where you live?" I would think not! You chose your org based on the people in it that you met and saw something special in (as well as the something special they saw in you). So don't be fretting about XYZ on another campus - worry about your chapter and your involvement in making it a positive representation of greek life! Just my $309.48

[blu_theatrics]

Well said. I am also tired of interested young ladies who post question about why someone else thinks that should join AAA. Or which sosrotiy is the best for them. Do your Reasearch

and find out for yourself. Yes, I love to answer questions from interested ladies and I have answered many and I don't really care who you are interested I try to be as unbiased as possible, but please research the chapter and the organization as a whole for yourself first.

I hope that didn't seem harsh, I just want to stress how important it is to know for your self, not to just listen to what others say, because 9 times out of ten (and hopefully 10 out of 10, if you consider yourself a real member)the person inquestion will believ ethat there org is the best and that's doesn't help much

Just my 22 cent
Originally posted by PLEASE:
Ladies and Gentlemen:

All chapters at all schools are going to be DIFFERENT!!! You should all be receiving your soro/frat publications, so you can SEE FOR YOURSELF what other chapters are doing!

Originally posted by AXO Alum:
You chose your org based on the people in it that you met and saw something special in (as well as the something special they saw in you). So don't be fretting about XYZ on another campus - worry about your chapter and your involvement in making it a positive representation of greek life! Just my $309.48

Okay - I absolutely agree with the first part of that but not the second. I think how people across the country see your organization does matter. We all joined our organizations for life - not just four years. Also, a valuable part of membership is that if you were to relocate to a new city your alum group might be a good starting point. Therefore if women who wear the same letters and undergo the same ceremony as you project a bad image, it does reflect on the organization as a whole. HOWEVER - as was originally stated, this is not the best place to find out info on other chapters. Your publications and alum chapters and websites can give you all that. Some of these people are probably also worried about their GLO being "cool" in the eyes of others. That is most definitely beside the point here.

[AXO Alum]

Originally posted by veruca:
Okay - I absolutely agree with the first part of that but not the second. I think how people across the country see your organization does matter. We all joined our organizations for life - not just four years. Also, a valuable part of membership is that if you were to relocate to a new city your alum group might be a good starting point.

Veruca -
I know from experience how it is relocating to a new city with a different chapter. And that is why, before I moved, I called nationals and got in touch with both the president of the alum club as well as the president of the collegiate chapter. I wanted to ask them myself what the sorority chapter was like in my new town. I heard some pros and some cons about the chapter (from sisters who were honest with me and that I could trust), so I decided to take a very active role in each. I now serve as VP of the alum chapter, and Fraternal Relations advisor to the collegiate chapter. I am able to serve my sorority from both sides instead of not affiliating. Like I said - I knew when I was moving that I should call ahead. But I know that I'm not moving to say Chicago anytime soon, so why do I care what the chapter there is like. I feel much more compelled to worry about my "new" chapters here and supporting the chapter I was initiated in, than to worry about what other people are thinking about a chapter somewhere else. This is how I give my commitment for a lifetime - by serving my sorority through 1) serving as VP of my alumnae chapter; 2) serving as an advisor to the collegiate chapter at my graduate school; 3) networking with other AX's via the internet, mail, and phone to assist others in need; and 4) financial contributions to the Alpha Chi Omega Foundation and membership.

What if you posted "What do you think about XYZ sorority" and I replied that they were all stupid and trashy? Maybe I was rejected by XYZ and carried a grudge. Maybe a girl in XYZ stole my man. The point is that you (or anyone else) would have no idea why I said that, and thus I would be promoting negativity that could very well be uncalled for. Plus - what if someone told me the AX chapter at my grad school was terrible. I would want to join them anyway because THAT is my commitment to "Sisterhood for a Lifetime"! I think these kinds of posts (What's my soro like) leave too much room for rumors to be started in and thus to perpetuate negativity.

[Manders]

Why do you care so much if someone wants to know how their chapter is viewed on another campus. It's interesting to see the differences in YOUR sisters/brothers from around the country. I think the message board is a great way to find out about that. we don't JUST belong to our chapter but to the sorority/fraternity as a whole. We have sisters and brothers everywhere that we will never meet. It's nice to know a little bit about them.

Amanda

[AXO Alum]

Originally posted by Manders:
I enjoy hearing from other sisters from other chapters and what they're like. I've made a great friend from U of toledo in a different chapter of my sorority.

I too have made friends with sisters on the net that I wouldn't have met otherwise, but because I went looking on the directory. Not because I posted wanted everyone's opinion of my group.

"If people want to know about other chapters regardless of their intentions....that's
they're option! "

And if people want to state why they think this kind of thing can perpetuate negativity....then that's their option!

"Don't attack the person asking the question"

I haven't viewed anything posted here as an attack on anyone. I just think that no matter what someone said about the chapter at a different school, I am still obligated to participate because I take my commitment to sisterhood seriously. I would never say "well I'm not going to talk to them because I heard...blahblahblah" Instead I chose to get involved for the greater good of my fraternity as a whole, and in doing so I was fortunate enough to meet many more sisters.

[cash78mere]

Manders-

Here is the problem with "learning" about other chapters. These are totally hypothetical situations:

Let's say the Tri-Delts cut me first night. I wasn't good enough for them. Now I can't stand them but I love my own organization. Am I going to speak well about them even if they have a good reputation on campus? No, my opinions would clearly be biased.

Here's another scenario:
I like to stay in and only go out with a small group of friends. None of that big partying scene. The Kappas are known for their wild parties. I resent that they don't study enough, or whatever. So if someone asks for my opinion, it will be, sight unseen to my situation, "the kappas are b*tches who think they are the only ones who matter. they are stuck up and all they care about is drinking"

on the other hand, they can go around callng my sorority a bunch of losers who don't have any fun because we don't have the SAME type of fun as they do.

but no one on this board will know the background info.

My whole point is that someone in ABC will have a different opinion of someone in DEF sorority on their campus. These ladies clearly joined their respective orgs because they felt they were the best for them. We cannot get unbiased opinions and shouldn't be sharing biased opinions with potential rushees, who are the ones who REALLY care.

only ask an opinion on a sorority/fraternity from an actual member of that organization. if not, it's all hearsay.

Peace.

[Manders]

I know that myself and most of the other replys I've read regarding other chapters come from the members themselves. I don't and I can't see someone else taking a reply seriously like "they all wear black pants...they're bitches" and if they do take it seriously than that just reflects on their own character. I enjoy hearing from other sisters from other chapters and what they're like. I've made a great friend from U of toledo in a different chapter of my sorority. If people want to know about other chapters regardless of their intentions....that's they're option! Maybe they'll get biased responses or maybe they'll get genuine ones but regardless, they're asking the question so let them get the kind of answer that question may generate. Don't attack the person asking the question instead, go after the person giving the response like "they're all drunk sluts". I'm sure an intelligent person can realize that an answer like that comes from a closed minded person.

[cash78mere]

not necessarily-

i'll tell you firsthand that there is a sorority at my friend's school where almost EVERY girl does drugs and drinks almost every night. they look trashy and give off that reputation. and you know what, they seem to be proud of it! but if someone were to say that on the board, then they would be closed minded? nope. they would be telling the truth.

i think the problem is that one person's idea of good can be another person's idea of bad. but you're right, people are free to write what they want, they just need to take it with a grain of salt. if that is someone's personal opinion, it is obviously how they see that group represent on campus. they're not closed minded, it's just the ideals that they think are important are not the same as what the group is displaying.

Peace