well, I have been given the duty...

librasoul22 · #1 08-09-2002, 02:00 PM

To stir the pot...so here goes. I am POSITIVE that there has been a thread about this before, but it was before I started looking at Chit Chat, so...

ABORTION...yay or nay, and why?

Hey, we have the death penalty, why not have one of the other issues that you don't discuss over Thanksgiving dinner?

I am AGAINST except for two cirsumstances...incest and rape.

James, I am waiting...

SigmaChiCard · #2 08-09-2002, 02:13 PM

yay. I think girls should have the choice. Many will say they make their choice when they have sex, maybe so, but you can't say it's only okay or legal if she were raped or the condom burst or the BC failed her....it's one way or the other....so I'm for it.

bcdphie · #3 08-09-2002, 02:18 PM

In most circumstances I am pro-choice. I feel I have no right to interfer in someone else's life and decisions, especially if I know nothing about them. The only case where I believe abortion is wrong is when people use it as a method of birth control instead of using condoms, the pill or any of the other choices that are out there.

Optimist Prime · #4 08-09-2002, 02:23 PM

I think that if protesters to WOMEN'S HEALTH FACILITIES have the right to show a picture of a 5 month old miscariage and call it a seventh week abortion, then women have a right to chose. Mother Nature gave us a plant that acts as a natural contraceptive if injested at the right time. If you are monothesist then all things come from God, so did the knowledge of abortion. If you can't tell, I'm pro-choice. And its not just a women's issue. Anything that affects anyone's freedom affects everyone's freedom.

AOX81 · #5 08-09-2002, 02:28 PM

I am pro-choice.

I have never been in this particular situation but I support a womans right to choose what is right for her. I don't tell people how to live their lives as I would not want them telling me how to live mine.

Rudey · #6 08-09-2002, 02:30 PM

I have issues being with girls that are Pro-Life - it scares me, just like it does for a lot of guys. I guess I will never have sex with a Southerner.

-Rudey
--But then again if the girl keeps the abortion clinic in business, I'm not touching her with Optimist Prime's schlong.

lifesaver · #7 08-09-2002, 02:37 PM

Everyones "pro-life" until it happens to them.

Then when theyre up a creek, they then begin to rexamine their belief system.

I generally respect everyones opinions tho.

Just as long as it is generally theirs and can explain that it is theirs and why, not just restating what daddy and mommy and the minister have been feedign them for 18 years. Its easy to spot a brain washing: Age+Lack of Life experiences+Fervor=Someone elses opinion.

lol

XiLovin · #8 08-09-2002, 02:41 PM

Nice try Rudey, I am a southerner and I am pro-choice. Hey, aren't you more interested in anal sex anyway? Just kidding.

valkyrie · #9 08-09-2002, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Optimist Prime
Anything that affects anyone's freedom affects everyone's freedom.

That's one of the best statements I've read lately. I completely agree, and am completely pro-choice.

Rudey · #10 08-09-2002, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by XiLovin
Nice try Rudey, I am a southerner and I am pro-choice. Hey, aren't you more interested in anal sex anyway? Just kidding.

I thought anal sex was the Southern way of not even having to deal with the abortion issue.

-Rudey
--Stop hitting on me.

XiLovin · #11 08-09-2002, 02:55 PM

I'll try.

DeltAlum · #12 08-09-2002, 02:58 PM

I don't like the idea of abortion. That's not a religious thing, I just don't like the idea.

However, I believe a woman (or couple) should have the option to decide for herself or themselves.

That makes me pro-choice I suppose, but I would have a very difficult time deciding to abort a fetus of ours/mine.

KSig RC · #13 08-09-2002, 02:59 PM

Myself and like 5 other people on the entire planet are 'Republican' and "pro-choice" . . . but hey it's fine.

Personally, I don't know if I would promote the woman I impregnated having an abortion, if it were to happen to us - there are definitely issues as to what makes a person, well, a person, personal morals, all that good stuff that I generally don't think about.

That said, it doesn't make sense for me to take the option away from somebody, just because I might or might not do it. That's not my place at all.

I love hearing the 'biblical extremist' response to abortion - lifesaver is completely correct, it's pretty easy to see when someone is regurgitating something they saw on the zealot's pulpit (or even worse, TV).

//edited for gender correctness . . . turns out, the female has the babies

bcdphie · #14 08-09-2002, 03:01 PM

In Vancouver there have been some attempts against abortion doctors' lives - I believe one was killed in the mid to late 90's - by people who are prolife - my question is if you are prolife, why the hell are you trying to kill people?!

aephi alum · #15 08-09-2002, 03:10 PM

Consider the pot stirred

I am pro-choice with qualifications.

A rape victim who becomes pregnant should not be forced to carry that fetus to term. Same with incest.

If continuing a pregnancy would endanger the woman's life (as with an ectopic pregnancy) the pregnancy should be terminated.

A woman who makes reasonable efforts to prevent conception should not be forced to carry that fetus to term if those efforts fail. (I'm not saying birth control is solely the woman's responsibility; men and women should share the responsibility equally. But the bottom line is that it's the woman whose body is affected by pregnancy and childbirth, and while a gentleman will stick with his wife/girlfriend and help her get through it, sometimes the man walks away leaving the woman to shoulder 100% of the burden by herself - not just the physical, but the emotional, financial, etc.)

But a woman who just wants to pick the sex of her baby, or whose sole means of "contraception" is going out and having an abortion, should not be allowed to do so. It only takes a few seconds to put on a condom.

I also disagree with third-trimester abortions. If you haven't decided to abort by the time you've had 5-6 months to think about it, stick it out and have the baby... if you can't support the baby, put him/her up for adoption.