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06-28-2002, 08:46 PM
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What do you think of this???
I was talking to a friend of mine the other day and he pointed out some real differences between white and black fraternities/sororities.
For instance, white sororities are very, very big, so they are able to recieve a lot of money within the chapter, having more money to put in their fraternity/sorority home, making it a home, making sure that their members graduate in four years by holding study sessions for each other as well as a file for old tests for others to study from, not just for a particular line, but for members in the years to come. He also pointed out that they treat each other pretty well, and their rushes are actually nice because they have real food and drinks, as well as a program.
However, he said that they can be cliquish because they are so big, and do not get that close to every member of the chapter. He also said that they do not have strict guidelines over paraphernalia, since other people outside of the organization wears their clothes, as well as them wearing their letters in all different colors.
But they do take care of each other.
The biggest drawback about black sororities and fraternities, he says, is that it can be taken for granted, and go to someone's ego. Plus, he would like to see more people in an organization graduate in 4-5 years, instead of being a career college frat/sorority person.
However he does see the unity among members, but he said we can be standoffish.
What do you think?
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06-30-2002, 11:42 PM
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Just wondering
did your friend provide fact-based information that members of black fraternites and sororities graduate within 4 years and members white organizations do. Also, if white orgs. have more members then black orgs, then the grad rate will naturally be higher..
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07-01-2002, 05:47 AM
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No, it was just a general statement and observation. It provoked a little bit of thought, and I was just curious as to what other sorors think? My sands think it is a pretty fair observation...
and true, higher population=higher graduation, but you don't see a lot of white orgs being a career org. student...
The reason it sparked so much interest was because I know too many career frat men to be comfortable, and I know how much of a struggle it can be to graduate in four years!
(I also thought the test file was a good idea!)
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07-01-2002, 06:50 AM
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I went to a very large "white" university (40,000 students) and my 1st roommate was in a wglo. Anyway, the major thing that I can say about their graduation rate has alot to do with funds.
To be a member of the chapters on that particular campus was very very expensive...many of them had the money to pay dues and live in those Tara "Gone with the Wind" Houses--have really nice cars and shop til they drop and go to school and all without working...
It has been my experience that some of us become career students because we work to stay in school...
Just a thought
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07-01-2002, 09:27 AM
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Is this thread only for greeks?
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07-08-2002, 03:44 PM
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OOps...I've been out of town...no this is not for greeks.
Hope I didn't step on any toes...most career students I know can afford it just fine...
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07-11-2002, 08:39 AM
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I don't see the big deal with trying to graduate in 4 years, because everyone cannot take the course load required to graduate in that time. For instance, it took me 6 years to graduate, and that's because I only took 12 credit hours each semester, which was all I could handle, since I also had to work full time, to pay my bills. In order for me to finish in 6 years, I would've had to take AT LEAST 16 credit hours or more.
I think, as long as a person graduate, that's all that matters. I've known people who took off a year, and came back. I think that's fine also. Some people need a break. However, if you've been in college for 10 years (without a break), and you still haven't graduated, there just may be a problem.
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07-11-2002, 09:56 AM
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I think that people should graduate in four years or somthing close to it. However, my attitude is probably heavily influenced by the shchool I attend. They are very strict about people graduating in four years, mainly to keep their rank up. If you go past the four year limit then you have to go part time and sometimes they won't let you graduate past four years like if it involves changing a major late or whatever. Anyway, it is rare at my school for someone to go past the four year limit. So in that case the Black Greeks are no different in the four year "rule".
I would agree with your friends comparison of the different Greek systems as far as my school goes. One of the Deans of the Greek Affairs was talking to me about how he wishes the Black Greeks weren't so "exclusive" or "club like".
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07-11-2002, 11:25 AM
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Re: What do you think of this???
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Originally posted by Diva_01
Plus, he would like to see more people in an organization graduate in 4-5 years, instead of being a career college frat/sorority person.
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This may mirror the graduation rates of Blacks in general. Does he know how many Blacks graduate on time and what may be the causes for their inability to graduate in four years. For most, it is directly related to funding. So, no matter how great it would be to graduate with one's class, I would hope that it would be more important just to graduate. Also, is he aware of the GPAs of members vs. non-members? His opinions seem valid only because anything seems valid when it is untested. But, when one compares BGLOS to WGLOS in this way, one must not forget to include the general disparities between Whites in Blacks in higher education graduation rates and pre-college preparation.
It's tough enough to graduate without going into severe debt or dropping courses, but his attittude appears cavalier, as though those people choose not to graduate on time. And, for MOST students (regardless of race) that is not the truth.
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