These Other Fake Greeks

[theo14]

you know what kills me is the whole "greek unity" crap...ive looked on BET.com, GreekChat, and Simplygreek, and all these other greeks, (alphas, kappas,ques,rhos,AKAs,deltas)get on here crying about greek unity, but these are the same fake people who later in the forum, are talking shyt, about sigma or zeta...why must we be so fake
if you dont like me, that cool, move on. But dont sit in my face and lie or be hypocrytical.

For example,
some Alpha, seems to have an issue with us saying we were the first to estalblish alumni chapter, and we were to first to have a joint meeting with the omegas
For example,
these rhos are killing me with the "phi beta" controversy.
For example,
these kappas seem to have an out of this world issue with us, for what reason, i dont know.
For examply,
greeks in general hating on the sigma/zeta relationship

My POINT
there is no greek unity, until these other greeks stop bashing, and criticing and being fake I could care less about these other people.

[theo14]

As far as the Alpha and the info about the joint sigma que meeting....

I know its true, but i dont need to or have to give these other greeks a history lesson. they should learn it themselves, if they didnt thats th fault of their respective intake proceses...

BUT FYI,
A person, who i guess is a que wrote
"The 1921 meeting between Phi Beta Sigma and Omega Psi Phi isn’t listed in our “general
Overview” of our Conclave minutes of each conclave because general business for each org
was handled separately. But, it clearly states in our 1st history book that the meeting did happen. For the Bruhs... these accounts are in your “Dreer” page 145-146."
so finally someone other than me, with some knowledge

[Texas_Dove]

Just a reminder theo14:

The opinions of one or more members in a particular organization does not necessarily reflect the viewpoint of the entire body.

I do agree with you that any "war of words" between members of the Divine Nine is totally unacceptable.


Texas_Dove

[Six_Three_Sigma]

Theo14,

If some are hating, let them!!! Like Brother Texas_Dove said, it does not reflect the opinion of the collective.

We know what we were taught. Some people in other organizations will always find something to gripe about. It would not matter if was true or false, they'll make an issue out if it.

As for the cats talking shyt and then wanting to talk the greek unity stuff, all I can say is that, some people are like that. It's apparent that they do not have the sense to realize that greek unity cannot exist with them hating on the other organizations.

1914

[observant1]

To say that the problem is amongst all the OTHER greeks and excludes your fraternity and sister sorority is a biased and untrue(not real/FAKE) assumption in itself. I've looked on the same boards and seen negativity from EVERY BGLO. So if you are going to state something make sure you are all inclusive of everyone contributing to problem of there being no greek unity.

[Six_Three_Sigma]

observant1, if you are referring to what I posted, please don't get it twisted!

I never once said or implied that my frat or sorors were free of controversy and negativity. (I guess the fact that I did not explicitly say we all have issues threw you.)

Be that as it may, I still stand by what I said.

There were no assumptions in my statement. Peep it closely.

Now that we have gotten past that little bit of confusion, how do you propose these organizations work toward a solution?

[observant1]

If you never once said or implied that your frat or sorors were free of wrongdoing then my post wasn't referring to you. "Peep closely" that I never once stated Six_Three_Sigma anywhere in my post. Just because someone posts directly after you doesn't mean they were referring to your post. I guess that fact that I didn't explicitly say theo14 threw you. I hope this clears up any confusion you had.

Now, IF you are asking me about a proposed solution. My first reply would be if you are too busy complaining about a problem then you are too busy to focus on a solution. Adding more fuel to the fire doesn't put it out. My second reply would be to correct your frat/soror(to clarify I'm generally speaking) when they are clearly in the wrong. All the tag teaming on other greeks doesn't alleviate but escalates drama. My third reply would be when in greek settings represent yourself as your frat/sorority models itself. That "if you disrespect me, I'll disrespect you back" mentality makes one look stupid and paints themselves and their org in a bad light.

[Professor]

I will agree that munch of what is posted on GC is not at all appropriate. However, I would never post that of the 9 - 8 are fake! Also, while I don't always agree with my Brothers post, I still support them and try to help them see the light. Perhaps folk in your organization will help you do the same.

[theo14]

The whold purpose of this thread was not to cause anger or hate...youre dealing with a frustrated bruh...and to be honest, im just stating my opinion and where im at in regards to greek relations and greek unity.....

there is no greek unity......

and im sick and tired of these same people who preach greek unity on one forum, and then on the next forum, theyre talking trash....

If you dont like me, you dont like me, plain and simple...if i dont like you, im not going to go out of my way to befriend you...im not generalizing im telling you of my personal experience....there is one frat out there, that i have not met one person, that ive liked or even was cordial to...NOT ONE PERSON, and ive met a lot of guys from this one particular fraternity.....im sure there are some cool fellas maybe, but i havent met them, and dont care to....

[Six_Three_Sigma]

Observant1,

I must have missed the part where you said " Well.........THEO14 ". Was that there before?

Assuming it was there, I'll say you got me. From what was written, it appeared as if you were referring to a post that I put up. (It had nothing to do with the fact that your post follewed mine.)

In any event, if you were offended, my apologies to you.

Additionally, I still have the question of how do you propose to help alleviate the problem.

My answer to the problem would be to just stop talking shyt about these other organizations. No ONE person has room to talk about any other organization as a collective because we ALL have problems. (Of course, if a person has had dealings with certaing people of a certain organization, then I would say it is their right ot voice their opinions about those particular people in those "other" organizations. We need to be talking about how we what we can should be doing collectively as organizations and leaders in our communities to help uplift our communities and the youth within them

Also, I agree with you about the mentality that is prevalent in all organiztaions...namely the "if you disrespect me, I'll disrespect you back" mentality. It is this type of thinking that I believe leads a lot of people to go out and "hate" on others.

[DELTAQTE]

Theo posted a post that made it seem like his "ish" don't stink!

Everyone is attacking the Sigmas/Zeta relationship, An Alpha has a problem with us, the Sigma Gamma Rhos want to claim Sigma, blah blah blah!!!

This is my personal opinion, not anyone else's or my sorority.

I have said this before and I will say it again. The time when Sigmas have gotten into it with XYZ, it was the Sigmas that started it! It's like you have something to prove or something. And what the hell do you think is going to happen when


You claim to be the first with the "dogmatic" image
The first with the Kanes
Claim everyone else bond isn't real, but for us to acknowledge yours as the real deal!

Whatever, don't complain about it if you can't dish it, heck even this POST is a "attack on Sigmas" waiting to happen.

Everybody gets talked about, we all rib on each other, some people take it better than others! How many times has someone heard:

That a Delta is really an aka?
That the Aka's are prissy?
That the Alphas are gay?
That the Kappas are gay?
That the Omegas don't graduate?
That the Zetas are ghetto?
That the Rho's aren't claimed by the Kappas?
That the Iotas are respected?

We all hear it, sometimes we get mad, but most of the time, WE SUCK IT UP and move the hell on!

The only thing I agree with you on is that you have the right to be called Sigmas(as I posted in the thread on aka lane about words specific to orgs) and not the Rho's.


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[arRHOgance4]

DELTAQTE: The only thing I agree with you on is that you have the right to be called Sigmas(as I posted in the thread on aka lane about words specific to orgs) and not the Rho's.

Question...how do we not have the right to use the name Sigma? It is part of our name...and more so, the FIRST letter of our name...

Now I prefer the name SGRho, because it cuts down on confusion, etc . Sorta like if AKA's were called Alphas...but we still refer to ourselves as Sigma women. I have no problem with the brothers of Phi Beta Sigma referring to themselves as Sigmas, (a close friend of mine is one, and expained how it is important) but do have a problem if they (or others) act like they have a copyright to the word "Sigma". We have a right just as much as they do, but the headache and drama is not worth it. I am a Sigma woman in mind, body, and soul...but if it makes you happy, call me an SGRho...

[schizo1914]

so we meet again, fatty...on another message board...on another website....

....and again, there you, are all up in Sigma........stop your blue hatred, it's wack...

[impervios]

Well I do not see anything wrong with a little competition but when we have what we are haveing right now that's not cool.Yes I talk about alot of greeks at my school but we are all cool with each other.We know when and when not to. And we do help each other when there is a real need. But you will havethe ones who will keep up drama. So until we as a whole can stop the ones that are keeping up the drama there will be no change. But in the same token you do have the ones who love being a Black Greek. And they do get along with all the other org. So there is unity within us but the ugly is always seen first. So you can not say that there is no unity, When you do have the ones that try,and are still trying.
And by the way(DELTAQTE) the one about Iota Phi Theta I have not heard that one yet

[DELTAQTE]

Boy I've been on this board for a long time, and I'm glad you posted, cause you are the PERFECT example of what I'm talking about crappy-O. The Sigmas I deal with have to say something crazy or rude, and here in Cali, that's a typical Sigma to us, that's real.

Not saying you don't have the right to be called Sigmas, but when someone says "There go the Sigmas" I don't think of the Rho's. But I know some places Rho's are called "Lady Sigmas".


Pass the cake crappy, since I'm so fat(laughs)

What.....

Eva!



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