What do you think?

[RHOyalty 22]

Hello Sorors,

Today I was reading a local magazine when I ran across an article about speaking out against Roy Moore (The Chief justice of the Alabama supreme court) that reads as the following:

"Down what path is Roy Moore's "leadership" taking us?"

First for the Jews- "I believe to-day that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the ALMIGHTY CREATOR. In standing guard against the Jew I am defending the handiwork of the Lord . . . . The result of this war will be the ANNIHILATION of the Jewish race." -Adolf Hitler/Dictator of Germany

Next African Americans-"Genocide and forbidding of mixed marriages were not the only means utilized in THE BIBLE to protect the bloodline. . . . Serparation or segregation is also clearly advocated." -David Duke/Imperial Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan.

Now Homosexuals- "Homosexual behavior is . . .an inherent evil. . . .The state carries the power of the sword, that is, the power to prohibit conduct with physical penalties, such as CONFINEMENT AND EXECUTION. It must use that power to prevent the subversion of children toward this lifestyle. . . ." Roy Moore/Chief Justice of the Alabama Supreme Court


After that, the advertisement gives you numbers to call if you want to speak out about Moore's views.

My point is this sorors and others, How do you feel about what you just read? Do you think that it is fair for the plight of the Lesbian/Homosexual to be compared to the plight of the Jew and the African-American? How do you feel about the struggle that lesbians and homosexuals go through in their daily lives? Of course I have my own opinion, but I think I'll save mine for last.

[NinjaPoodle]

Well, growing up in San Francisco, I have friend of all races, religions, etc.. i think I have a wider point of view of this because a few of my best friends are gay. My 'gay friends' have a rough time but some of them can 'hide' the fact that they are gay. I am an African American woman. One look at me and you can see that. And by that, people can choose to discriminate against me. Speaking with my friends at great length about this, they did not 'choose' to be gay. They came from traditional two parent families and had the 'typical' american up-bringing. I personally see nothing wrong with being gay (which by the way means 'happy'). As far as it being compared with the race/religion issue, it's hard to say.

Mr. Moore is entitled to his opinion (as is everyone else). I dissagree with it. If you don't like it move or live somewhere where you don't have to deal with it. If someone is gay, so what? What does that have to do with YOU? Nothing. Is it going to change your life because that guy over there is having a relationship with another man? I seriously doubt it.

People are People.

[Yemaya]

My thoughts

What Mr. Moore and that article is saying really hurts my heart. I do not like to hear about people wanting to hurt and kill others. Mr. Moore is entitled to his own opinion. I know that many people will say that he is crazy and full of nonsense. I too have gay and lesbian friends who have been better friends to me than some straight friends that I have known my entire life. I know that I am not the one who will judge him and others in the end....I just hope that he is ready for the consequences and problems that will arise because of these statements. -Yemaya-

[SeriousSigma22]

Sorhors and sisterfriends,

It basically is a warning that prejudice, discrimination, and hatred is alive and well in America and they we never will probably ever have true peace on this earth with ignorant hateful people like the good ole' boy moore.

Serioussigma22

[Yemaya]

I know we are all different, but why can't we keep the faith, promote the peace and show some love?

[SoTrue1920]

I think we start to tread into dangerous territory when we try to play the "I'm more oppressed than you are" game. If someone's foot is on my neck, and a lesbian feels the foot of persecution on her neck, or a jewish man feels the foot of anti-semitism on his neck, who's to say that the pressure on them is any less than my own?

I'd like to share one of my favorite quotes by Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. if I may:

"We must all learn to live together as brothers or we will all perish together as fools. We are tied together in the single garment of destiny, caught in an inescapable network of mutuality. And whatever affects one directly affects all indirectly. For some strange reason I can never be what I ought to be until you are what you ought to be. And you can never be what you ought to be until I am what I ought to be. This is the way God’s universe is made; this is the way it is structured."

[Dionysus]

Originally posted by RHOyalty 22

Do you think that it is fair for the plight of the Lesbian/Homosexual to be compared to the plight of the Jew and the African-American? How do you feel about the struggle that lesbians and homosexuals go through in their daily lives? Of course I have my own opinion, but I think I'll save mine for last.

From a general POV:
In some ways yes. In most ways, no.
I strongly believe that homosexuality is a choice.
Even if it isn't a choice, you can conceal it.
If you're AA or any other minority, it is not a choice and you cannot conceal it. In other words, if a homosexual wishes not to be oppressed, s/he can hide the fact, blacks and women can't!

From a biblical POV:
That is an entirely different ball park....

[Blackwatch]

Sotrue1920 Quotes Dr. King

. For some strange reason I can never be what I ought to be until you are what you ought to be. And you can never be what you ought to be until I am what I ought to be. This is the way God’s universe is made; this is the way it is structured."

The question here is not of who's more oppressed, but what type of oppression occurs. With Jews, it is religious oppression, with blacks it is racial oppression, with Homosexuals, the oppression comes from a choice of sexual preferrence. (I say choice because even some homosexuals will tell you that any type of sexuality is not a natural phenomenon, but a combination of environment, personal choice, and opportunity. Many homosexuals say that they were born that way, but you cannot find any scientific proof to back that up). Does this make discrimination against homosexuals okay, of course not. But at the same time, let us consider the quote by Dr. King. He says that "I can never be what I ought to be " unless "...you are what you ought to be", not who we are, but who we ought to be. Dr. King is saying that our divine destiny in inexricably tied to the betterment of ourselves and each other. He is saying that the complete law of the universe is better than our human nature, and calls for us to be better people (read righteous). Homosexuality is an act that is abhorent to God and goes against God's law (of the universe). These laws are not contingent upon how society views them nor on how breaking them effects those around us. Yes homosexuality is a personal choice between two people, but so is adultery, fornication and other sexual sins. This does not make them okay, these sins go against the devine design for sex and our bodies.
Judge Moore is probably as biggeted as the Third reich was to the Jews and the Jim Crowers were to the Blacks in the South, but do not think that the question of homosexuality and race are merely questions of who's more oppressed. This issue speaks to the validation of a lifestyle that is deemed incongruent to the divine destiny of us all. Homosexuality is not an phylogenic trait like skin color is, it is a lifestyle choice that has consequences just as any choice will have. Should they be discriminated against by society simply for being homosexual, of coure not, but at the same time, this choice of lifestyle should not afford them the priviledge to be free from the question of the righteousness of the act itself, and face the consequences of the act. You see, when a homosexual makes the comparison to black oppression, I feel like it is more out of an attempt to normalize homosexuality rather than point out the evils of discrimination in any form. The homosexual then throws what God says out the window and expects us to do the same. I think not.
Blackwatch!!!