Pledging

Optimist Prime · #1 02-07-2002, 12:00 AM

I think there should be a forum for pledging. There is a forum for rush and people who are rushing aren't in GLO's (yet). People pledging are kind of in. That can be a challenging time and I think a forum on Greek chat could help.

lovelyivy84 · #2 02-07-2002, 12:21 AM

Well being as how pledging is *illegal* and there are numerous national officers and chapter officers on this site, I think that is a bad, bad, bad idea. Let's not make this dimedropperschat.com, mmkay?

If you are pledging, keep it to yourself! You should know that anyway. Man, when I think of some of the things I have not ever seen or heard or been e-mailed about and the trouble it might have hypothetically gotten some people in with their hypothetical DOP's/MOP's (which of course do not exist anymore) I shudder to think about the position they would have been in had that really occurred (namely, ass up)!

DeltaBetaBaby · #3 02-07-2002, 12:27 AM

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Originally posted by lovelyivy84
Well being as how pledging is *illegal* and there are numerous national officers and chapter officers on this site, I think that is a bad, bad, bad idea. Let's not make this dimedropperschat.com, mmkay?

If you are pledging, keep it to yourself! You should know that anyway. Man, when I think of some of the things I have not ever seen or heard or been e-mailed about and the trouble it might have hypothetically gotten some people in with their hypothetical DOP's/MOP's (which of course do not exist anymore) I shudder to think about the position they would have been in had that really occurred (namely, ass up)!

Whoa, wait, pledging is totally allowed by almost every national group with which I am familiar. Sure, we may call them something different, but a new member period prior to initiation is standard.

RTZTAS · #4 02-07-2002, 12:30 AM

lovelyivy84, what's illegal about "pledging" in your group? I'm a ZTA, and we call the women who have accepted our bids "New Members" not pledges. Many other things have changed, but we still have a "Formal Pledging" ceremony, where the new member "pledges" her loyalty to the sorority. We still use those terms in those instances. We don't think the word "pledge" is illegal, its just not used to refer to a person, but an action. I figured most other NPC groups had similar policies. But I would be interested to hear if I assumed incorrectly.

erniegurl00 · #5 02-07-2002, 12:34 AM

I'm a tad confused. Pledging isn't illegal, but did you mean telling secrets or hazing is illegal?

Optimist Prime · #6 02-07-2002, 12:39 AM

I meant the NIC thing. I've heard about what pledging means in NPHC orgs.

queequek · #7 02-07-2002, 12:42 AM

I think the same concept with recruitment v.s rush ... our PanHellenic are forbidden to use the term "rush", instead, they use "recruitment"

Just my .02 cents

SigkapAlumWSU · #8 02-07-2002, 02:21 AM

I think that maybe some people are getting hazing and pledging mixed up...? Pledging is the process by which you learn history and become a member.. hazing is bad and completely different...

TrojanGirl · #9 02-07-2002, 02:35 AM

Ok, so how about if we call it "New/Probationary/Pledge Discussion" That way it covers everything?
TrojanGirl

lifesaver · #10 02-07-2002, 03:09 AM

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Originally posted by lovelyivy84
Well being as how pledging is *illegal* and there are numerous national officers and chapter officers on this site, I think that is a bad, bad, bad idea. Let's not make this dimedropperschat.com, mmkay?

If you are pledging, keep it to yourself! You should know that anyway. Man, when I think of some of the things I have not ever seen or heard or been e-mailed about and the trouble it might have hypothetically gotten some people in with their hypothetical DOP's/MOP's (which of course do not exist anymore) I shudder to think about the position they would have been in had that really occurred (namely, ass up)!

Speaking on behalf of billy, (which he has not authorized me to do) and knowing he is a newly initiated member of a fraternity, I assume he was speaking of a forum so that new members could speak of their experiences, feelings and such.

there are many differences between the "new member" processes between the NPC/NIC/NPHC groups. For most all NIC/NPC groups, its a VERY public and celebrated process. Hell, with my campus, we put big posters in the quad and lecture hall buildings (where all the freshman kick it - largest lecture halls are there) with our new members names on it. Kinda braggin if you will. its a competition to show off how many new members you got and who they are.

I dont see the creation of a new forum as an opportunity for negativity and hazing allegations. First, those fools are already here. Two, they already post crap in Glife and Cchat.

Idea: Lets use this thread as an opportunity. Ivy, would you please maybe educate us on the diffeences between our systems? or at least why does discression seem to be so important when rushing/affilliating an NPHC group? I am interested. Something I dont know about greek life! Thanks for your help in advance.

DZTUBAGIRL · #11 02-07-2002, 10:47 AM

Hey all!
I am a DZ new member right now and proud of it! I think it is a great idea to have a forum for us to talk.
Anne Marie

damasa · #12 02-07-2002, 12:30 PM

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Originally posted by lovelyivy84
Well being as how pledging is *illegal* and there are numerous national officers and chapter officers on this site, I think that is a bad, bad, bad idea. Let's not make this dimedropperschat.com, mmkay?

If you are pledging, keep it to yourself! You should know that anyway. Man, when I think of some of the things I have not ever seen or heard or been e-mailed about and the trouble it might have hypothetically gotten some people in with their hypothetical DOP's/MOP's (which of course do not exist anymore) I shudder to think about the position they would have been in had that really occurred (namely, ass up)!

whoa, pledging is illegal now? Since when did this happen?!?! LOL
I think someone got hazing and pledging mixed up?!?!

lovelyivy84 · #13 02-07-2002, 01:01 PM

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Originally posted by damasa

whoa, pledging is illegal now? Since when did this happen?!?! LOL
I think someone got hazing and pledging mixed up?!?!

Umm, no.

I just thought for some reason that you meant pledging as the NPHC term. It IS illegal in NPHC orgs.

My bad for getting mixed up with names.

ChaosDST · #14 02-07-2002, 02:40 PM

Accurately put Sisterfriend. Anyone want to know some of the differences in terminologies and procedures between the NPHC and NPC? Here's our National Pan-Hellenic Council website: http://www.nphchq.org/

Greek Love,
1913

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Originally posted by lovelyivy84

Umm, no.

I just thought for some reason that you meant pledging as the NPHC term. It IS illegal in NPHC orgs.

My bad for getting mixed up with names.

#15 02-07-2002, 02:50 PM

I think a "New Member Forum" would be cool. You should email John about it