Differences in Permission to come on campus...

[naraht]

I was just thinking how *different* various Greek Letter Organizations (in the widest sense) are in terms of what Permission is required *at* a school (not necessarily *by*) before they would put a new chapter there. (Assume that there are 25 students at the school who want to be part of *that* group.)

From what I've read in various places.

NPC: School decides on expansion, *that* sorority is selected to be the one to expand, etc. etc.
NIC: *Really* depends on the school, I've seen some where the current NIC groups have to vote to accept another member to the local IFC (NIC, national-non NIC or local), some where a school administrator gets to decide (and in some cases student government gets to put its two cents in)
NPHC: Haven't seen any effect of 4 of the Fraternities in NPHC being in NIC, but on HBCUs, do the other members of the NPHC *ever* get consulted? (i.e. does the Sigma Gamma Rho chapter ever get input as to whether Kappa Alpha Psi comes on campus???)
Local Groups: Varies...
Professionals: Varies *widely*
Service Greeks: Often "Club" type permission from school, but sometimes different.
Honoraries: Some require that the Department of the Honorary's emphasis (if it has one)*must* approve.

[Kevin]

With NIC fraternities and fraternities which have been historically NIC, it can really vary from campus to campus and from organization to organization. Sigma Nu requires fledgling colonies to be accepted by a majority vote of IFC, but that's just a regulation we've imposed on ourselves. I understand that when other groups decide to colonize a school, in some cases, they'll do it with or without IFC support.

[naraht]

Originally Posted by Kevin

We had a TKE chapter at my alma mater which operated despite being kicked off of campus for a number of years. I understand that when other groups decide to colonize a school, in some cases, they'll do it with or without IFC support.

What a fraternity/sorority will do if recognition is withdrawn is an *entirely* different thread.

[aephi alum]

Originally Posted by naraht

NPC: School decides on expansion, *that* sorority is selected to be the one to expand, etc. etc.

It's slightly more complicated than that.

If there are zero or one NPC chapters at a school, and there are no interest groups or local sororities that want to affiliate with an NPC sorority, the school decides on expansion and selects a sorority from among those interested. The sorority then does a "from the ground up" colonization where interested women are interviewed and selected.

If there are zero or one NPC chapters at a school, and there IS an interest group or local sorority interested in affiliating with a particular NPC sorority, the school decides on expansion and indicates that there's a group that is especially interested in affiliating with XYZ. If XYZ is interested, great. If not, the local can meet with representatives of other, interested, NPC sororities, and if they connect with one, great. If not, they can choose to remain local.

As soon as there are two NPC chapters at a school, a campus Panhellenic is formed. If that is the case, it's up to Panhel whether the school is open for expansion.

In the absence of a local interest group or sorority that wants to affiliate with an NPC sorority, Panhel can announce that the school is open to expansion, interested NPC sororities present, Panhel chooses one, and that sorority does a "from the ground up" colonization.

If there IS a local interest group or sorority that wants to affiliate with a particular NPC sorority, Panhel can announce that the school is open to expansion and that there is a local interested in becoming part of XYZ. Any NPC sorority can make a case for wanting to colonize, but XYZ has dibs. Again, if XYZ is interested and a connection is made, great. If XYZ is not interested, the local can meet with representatives of other, interested, NPC sororities, and if they connect with one, great. If not, they can choose to remain local. Of course, if a local approaches Panhel and says that they want to become part of XYZ, Panhel can always say no.

Confused yet?

That last case is what happened with my school, local sorority, and AEPhi. Long story short, seven Jewish women approached Panhel with the idea of establishing an AEPhi chapter. Another sorority had just colonized a couple of years earlier, so Panhel decided not to expand, but invited the women to form a local sorority. I rushed and joined that local. A couple of years later, Panhel decided to open the school to expansion and indicated that there was a local sorority interested in AEPhi. We got interest letters from a few NPC sororities, but when we invited AEPhi to meet with us, the match was made.

[Titchou]

The main reason it's more stringent on the NPC side is that all the NPC groups have agreed to abide by a set procedure. The NIC groups have not.

[PersistentDST]

On the NPHC end (not just speaking for HBCU's) as far as universities I have dealt with, organizations/interested students deal with the student life department. Since we do not have a uniform recruitment/intake process other chapters are normally not in the know about those type of things to have a say.

[naraht]

Originally Posted by aephi alum

Confused yet?

Nope.
2 or more sororities = Campus Panhel, If Campus Panhel, they decide whether to expand otherwise school. If expansion takes place, and local wants to go national with XYZ and XYZ likes that local, then a match can be made. (If XYZ doesn't like them, then the local can try to match to another National, etc)

I *thought* that it was crueller than that. What I thought was Delta Gamma Lambda is a local on campus that wants to be part of Delta Gamma, Panhel selects without the existence or desires of DGL and selects Alpha Phi leaving DGL up a creek. Instead, DGL gets to meet with DG, KaTheta and KKG and if DG and DGL like each other then *yay*.

[Titchou]

Originally Posted by naraht

Nope.
2 or more sororities = Campus Panhel, If Campus Panhel, they decide whether to expand otherwise school. If expansion takes place, and local wants to go national with XYZ and XYZ likes that local, then a match can be made. (If XYZ doesn't like them, then the local can try to match to another National, etc)

I *thought* that it was crueller than that. What I thought was Delta Gamma Lambda is a local on campus that wants to be part of Delta Gamma, Panhel selects without the existence or desires of DGL and selects Alpha Phi leaving DGL up a creek. Instead, DGL gets to meet with DG, KaTheta and KKG and if DG and DGL like each other then *yay*.

Yes, but only if DG is interested in that campus.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by PersistentDST

On the NPHC end (not just speaking for HBCU's) as far as universities I have dealt with, organizations/interested students deal with the student life department. Since we do not have a uniform recruitment/intake process other chapters are normally not in the know about those type of things to have a say.

Yes, it is centered around Student Life/Greek Life and the college/university since the college/university (in combination with the (inter)national GLO) has to approve the charter.

In reference to the OP, the process of chartering a chapter can begin in the following ways:

1. Graduate chapters and/or collegiate chapters are interested in chartering a chapter at a school and therefore assess student interest and assist the school in chartering the chapter. They can assess student interest by contacting the school or, the method I am most accustomed to, interacting with students.

2. Interested students contact the GLO NHQ and get connected to graduate chapters that can assist with assessing student interest and the college's interest. Then they work toward chartering a chapter.

3. Interested students contact graduate chapters and/or collegiate chapters to get guidance on assessing student interest and chartering a chapter.

4. Interested students contact other NPHC GLOs at the school or in the surrounding area to get assistance. It is not ideal to begin the process by contacting and getting assistance from another NPHC GLO but it has worked to charter chapters for a number of reasons.

5. Interested students (or student) contact Student Life/Greek Life/Dean's Office and ask about chartering a chapter. I frown upon this approach because initially contacting Student Life/Greek Life/the college and expecting them to contact the GLO and direct the process can prove a waste of time and disappointment. This is especially the case for some PWIs that do not know what to do and won't research to figure it out; and do not have a vested interest in NPHC/LGLO/AGLO/MCGLO.

[Griffins&Quills]

Originally Posted by naraht

Nope.
2 or more sororities = Campus Panhel, If Campus Panhel, they decide whether to expand otherwise school. If expansion takes place, and local wants to go national with XYZ and XYZ likes that local, then a match can be made. (If XYZ doesn't like them, then the local can try to match to another National, etc)

I *thought* that it was crueller than that. What I thought was Delta Gamma Lambda is a local on campus that wants to be part of Delta Gamma, Panhel selects without the existence or desires of DGL and selects Alpha Phi leaving DGL up a creek. Instead, DGL gets to meet with DG, KaTheta and KKG and if DG and DGL like each other then *yay*.

Well, sometimes it can happen like that depending on the panhellenic. Supposedly the last time my campus expanded (there was a local who wanted to go national), the local didn't have a vote in the process. They got to say what they wanted, but only the NPC chapters had an official vote in determining who to bring on out of the 3 presenters.

I mean, the local got who they wanted anyway, but one of the final three presenters was considered big competition for TriChi and Alpha Beta Gamma, so, they pushed really hard against that potential chapter.

So it really comes down to how nice the system is and if they're willing to take into consideration the desires of local, if it's a situation like what happened here.

[naraht]

Originally Posted by Titchou

Yes, but only if DG is interested in that campus.

Yes, you certainly can't force DG to present...

[LaneSig]

Originally Posted by aephi alum

It's slightly more complicated than that.



As soon as there are two NPC chapters at a school, a campus Panhellenic is formed. If that is the case, it's up to Panhel whether the school is open for expansion.


Confused yet?

/lane swerve/

Even if Panhellenic votes to open, doesn't the school administration still have a say? I'm thinking of Belmont in Tennessee. They voted 2 years ago to open, but the admin said no. (Belmont has since opened.) Or, was this an unusual situation?

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by LaneSig

/lane swerve/

Even if Panhellenic votes to open, doesn't the school administration still have a say? I'm thinking of Belmont in Tennessee. They voted 2 years ago to open, but the admin said no. (Belmont has since opened.) Or, was this an unusual situation?

School administration always has veto power, but I suspect it is rare that it comes to that.