How come in some schools frats dont let guys into parties?

[foonette]

I went to visit friends at dartmouth and everyone could go everywhere and it was just a blast...how come some schools just dont want this to happen and dont let guys into frat parties if they arnt in the house?

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by foonette

I went to visit friends at dartmouth and everyone could go everywhere and it was just a blast...how come some schools just dont want this to happen and dont let guys into frat parties if they arnt in the house?

A variety of reasons, not the least of which could be liability insurance and risk management. Then, of course, there's the whole private party concept.

[amIblue?]

Better ratio of females to males for the fraternity members?

[maconmagnolia]

Originally Posted by amIblue?

Better ratio of females to males for the fraternity members?

I think that's a lot of the reason here at Mizzou.

However, I find parties to be more fun when anyone can be let in. Oh well.

[Kelsium]

That's the way it is at my school, too. Only here, everybody has to live on campus so all of the parties are thrown by frats mostly. This exclusion is kind of insulting as a girl, though. Like my only purpose is to be a potential hook-up buddy.

[Psi U MC Vito]

Not to defend this behavior but for many 18-22 year old men the only vaule women have is what is between thier legs or in thier bras.

[PhiAlpha05]

What everyone else said. In my undergrad experience, the top tier frats tended to be the worst offenders in this area (one in particular wouldn't even let a brother's non-sorority GF into their parties, despite the fact that she's really attractive). People usually knew which frats were known for being more welcoming and having the best open parties (our "brother frat" for the first few years was one of them). I understand wanting to have a favorable girl/guy ratio in the frat's eyes, but wouldn't inviting guys over for a good time be a great potential recruiting tool? Perhaps some of the guys who enjoyed themselves at the parties might come back and think about rushing...

[lunalovegood]

Guys easily have a harder time getting into parties, and it's near impossible if you're non-Greek or don't have a friend in the house. I do know, however, five fraternities that generally have an "open brother" invite policy... brothers of ABC, DEF, GHI, JK, and LM will all get into each other's parties almost all the time. I think here it's more a "private party" concept than anything. Most of the brothers I know would rather have a private party since it's not only risk management issues but also whatever their social budget allows.

[pktcougar]

While a lot of it is ratio, most of it is liability. If they aren't brothers or friends of the fraternity you don't know how they'll act. 18-22 y.o. guys are much more likely to break things, start fights or overall damage. An out of control 120 lb girl is a lot easier to manage then a drunk/drugged/beligerent 250 lb guy. This is just from my experience, we were fairly welcoming until issues as above started becoming issues.

[greekdee]

When my husband was an undergrad, they had to be on the look out for guys who just wanted to come by the house and drink their beer. They weren't interested in learning about the fraternity or possibly becoming a pledge; thy just wanted to party on someone else's dime. This was one reason my husband's fraternity was wary of non-members coming to their parties unless is was an actual rush event. Also, the "show me the booze" types seemed to always be the ones to start trouble.

[dekeguy]

Back in the day when I was active this sort of issue just didn't come up. We generally had both open and closed parties. Open parties were seen as a means of looking over possible recruits and also a way to party with friends who were either GDI or in other houses. Girls were always welcome but almost always came with a date. Closed parties were members and date only but this was viewed in general as a "family party".

Risk management was primarily handled by hiring a couple of off-duty cops and by designating three or four of the biggest jocks to be ready to back up the cops, although this was rarely needed.

Multi-house parties were common where we would throw a band dance with a sorority at some hall that was neutral territory. If it was a more well known band we would team up with two or three other houses, hire additional cops, and charge admission.

On the couple of occasions where guys would get into a fight one of the cops would 'get their attention' and tell them to take it back to the gym or be hauled off to the precinct house. By the time those who accepted the invitation to take it back to the gym got there they couldn't remember what the fight was about. System worked every time.

Most open parties were either BYOB or 'feed the kitty' which generally eliminated the freeloaders. Anyway, we generally had local live band parties about once a week and dee-jay parties (usually the dee-jay was a member) once a week. Band parties were either Friday or Saturday night, dee-jays were usually Wednesday nights, and Sunday afternoons were bbq cook outs paired up with something like volleyball or softball.

During football season parties tended to be closed due to the large numbers of alums and their wives or girlfriends. Also, if the opposing school had a chapter then we would host the brothers, their dates, and alums.

All in all, there were plenty of open events and a good number of closed ones as well. No one seemed to have any heartburn over that arrangement.

[Titchou]

All the Greeks who subscribe to FPIG (an insurance coverage group) may only have parties with a guest list so "open" parties are not covered. It's hard to have a guest list if you let anyone come in. I wouldn't take it personally. I don't expect my neighbors to invite me to all their parties.

[rock5060]

It depends on the chapters. At my school, fraternities host parties for freshmen the first week. Males and females are all welcome. When it get later into the fall semester, most invite people only for crowd control purposes. If you show up at the house without a wristband, they'll allow you in. If you bring girls, they have to allow you in because these ladies may not know anyone in the fraternity, feel insecure, and leave after 10 minutes.