How Sacred is your Organization's History?

JayBEE! · #1 04-26-2001, 09:42 PM

I need to know. Does any organization has untouched history? Or does your history change from year to year? You know, delete, change words and so on?

pirate00 · #2 04-26-2001, 10:11 PM

I don't exactly follow what you're asking, but no, the story behind our founding of APO doesn't change and neither do our pledge induction, initiation, or any other of our ritiuals. They have been untouched since 1925.

JayBEE! · #3 04-26-2001, 10:22 PM

Pirate Pirate, When did you pledge?

I want you do somthing. And I want you to concentrate on our founder's pledge to himself. I'm going to email you some information.

zete_boy · #4 04-26-2001, 11:04 PM

well for me i thought we were all correct, but to my knowledge in the past year we may have heard knowledge that our founding date in 1847 could be wrong, being earlier by a year or two, our historian at our ihq is looking at documentation to see if this is correct. Yeah, i'm sure most organizations traditions change mildly from year to year, and eventually they are completely different from what they were originally, it's inevatable with society changing so must we, and the word of mouth traditions change by forgetting or adding new knowledege or continuining things that happened to you that weren't original tradition into traditions.

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JayBEE! · #5 04-27-2001, 11:23 AM

Zete_boy,

Your saying traditions changing from year to year. I know that happens. But what about your actual history/

pirate00 · #6 04-27-2001, 01:01 PM

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Originally posted by JayBEE!:
Pirate Pirate, When did you pledge?

I want you do somthing. And I want you to concentrate on our founder's pledge to himself. I'm going to email you some information.

Yes, yes. I know what he said, as state in the story behind the founding, which is expressed to our pledges when inducted. However, in the 2000 pledge manual (and everyone after it) there are 2 pages that document the role and history of women in our Fraternity. As for being "bamboozled", I think not. But, hey, it's all love!

In L, F, and, S,

-pirate00

p.s. I plegded in the Fall of 2000.

JayBEE! · #7 04-27-2001, 01:07 PM

But Pirate,

the story behind our founding of APO doesn't change........ They have been untouched since 1925.

I'm just here to enlighten you. When you come into an organization, you are at the beginning of your Quest For Information. Did you download the manual?

James · #8 04-27-2001, 01:52 PM

Actually and forgive me for interupting if this was for a specific organization . . . but I believe all our histories might change a little if we went back to the old (is it the baird's manual for Fraternities?) books.

I have seen founders name changes, dates change a bit, chapter order etc. I believe what usually happens is some historical commission some years after a group becomes National interviews people and researches and tries to find a common thing o publish which is probably a composite of a lot of people's memories.

James

JayBEE! · #9 04-29-2001, 09:41 PM

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Originally posted by pirate00:

The pages about women in the Fraternity were added last year (the year I became a brother). You can read it at the fraternity's website, www.apo.org.

When I was referring you to the manual, I was not referring you to the added section of the "woman in the fraternity". I was referring you to history of this organization so you can see the changes as well as the depleted story. The flow has been so interrupted, it doesn't sing like it did in the older manual.

I didn't even mention the other section to you. Why are you mentioning to me? You've mentioned it twice now.

JayBEE!