E-Mails Suggest Paterno Role in Silence on Sandusky

moe.ron · #1 07-01-2012, 12:25 PM

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Joe Paterno appears to have played a greater role than previously known in Penn State’s handling of a 2001 report that Jerry Sandusky had sexually assaulted a boy in a university shower, according to a person with knowledge of aspects of an independent investigation of the Sandusky scandal.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/01/sp...pagewanted=all

NutBrnHair · #2 07-01-2012, 12:33 PM

Way to point the finger at someone who can no longer defend himself. Leave Paterno alone. It's time for the victims and Penn State to begin to heal.

AOII Angel · #3 07-01-2012, 12:48 PM

It's not like they wrote the emails after he died. The investigation will continue, and this does not bode well for Penn State.

Greek_or_Geek? · #4 07-01-2012, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by NutBrnHair

Way to point the finger at someone who can no longer defend himself. Leave Paterno alone. It's time for the victims and Penn State to begin to heal.

Heal? Right. Because getting ass raped by an old man is exactly the same as watching your college athletic hero and program fall from grace.

Maybe they can go out and have some ice cream to make them feel better and make it all go away.

Munchkin03 · #5 07-01-2012, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by NutBrnHair

Way to point the finger at someone who can no longer defend himself. Leave Paterno alone. It's time for the victims and Penn State to begin to heal.

Do you think the criminal investigations should stop because Joe Paterno died? Do you realize that at least some of the victims are going to sue Penn State, and all involved parties?

This is called being responsible and leaving no stone unturned. Sorry if that offends your delicate sensibilities.

33girl · #6 07-01-2012, 02:16 PM

Personally, I think Joe Paterno was mainly a figurehead and had no clue what he was doing for quite a few years before he died - in any sphere of his life.

I'll leave judgement until I can actually see the emails. I have never understood the point of "well we have this thing that says so and so but we're not going to let you see it."

NutBrnHair · #7 07-01-2012, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Greek_or_Geek?

Maybe they can go out and have some ice cream to make them feel better and make it all go away.

Or maybe it can stay in the news for as long as possible and it will make the victims feel better. Right.

als463 · #8 07-01-2012, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Greek_or_Geek?

Heal? Right. Because getting ass raped by an old man is exactly the same as watching your college athletic hero and program fall from grace.

Maybe they can go out and have some ice cream to make them feel better and make it all go away.

As a Penn State Alumna, I am upset with everything going on. I will say that I would appreciate if people would STOP assuming Penn Staters are upset about our "college athletic hero and program" falling from grace. Penn State is SO MUCH MORE than a football program. Though I am incredibly disgusted by some of the people who chose to turn the other cheek (certain people in power who were not even Penn State Alumni), I will not allow this scandal to define my college experience and the pride I take in proudly telling people I graduated from Penn State. I guarantee that there are MANY other Penn State Alums that would say the same thing. So, while this is upsetting, please stop pointing the finger and ASSUMING that Penn Staters are "drinking the Kool-Aid" or "upset about the football program/ hero" and recognize that Penn State was/ is our home.

groovypq · #9 07-01-2012, 02:40 PM

I think I see what NutBrnHair is getting at, after reading the article.

"But in one e-mail, Curley wrote that after talking to Paterno, he no longer wanted to go forward with that plan."

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"Wick Sollers, a lawyer for the Paterno family, said in a statement: “To be clear, the e-mails in question did not originate with Joe Paterno or go to him, as he never personally utilized e-mail. "

This article is pretty vague. Nothing concrete is said. It's not revealing some email from Paterno to Spanier, Curley, etc. that says "Leave Sandusky alone." It's speculation, and reads pretty weakly to me.

I'm not a Paterno/Penn State apologist, and if more comes out to this, I'm not going to stick my head in the sand about it. But all of the FB postings I've seen to the effect of "ZOMG JoePa covered it up! Penn State should kill off its football team! The NCAA should kill off the Penn State team," well, if they're based on this article, it's sensationalism and a huge rush to judgment. Sorry, I want something more substantial.

Greek_or_Geek? · #10 07-01-2012, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by NutBrnHair

Or maybe it can stay in the news for as long as possible and it will make the victims feel better. Right.

Time after time you go out of your way to prove what an ignorant idiot you are.

Greek_or_Geek? · #11 07-01-2012, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by als463

As a Penn State Alumna, I am upset with everything going on. I will say that I would appreciate if people would STOP assuming Penn Staters are upset about our "college athletic hero and program" falling from grace. Penn State is SO MUCH MORE than a football program. Though I am incredibly disgusted by some of the people who chose to turn the other cheek (certain people in power who were not even Penn State Alumni), I will not allow this scandal to define my college experience and the pride I take in proudly telling people I graduated from Penn State. I guarantee that there are MANY other Penn State Alums that would say the same thing. So, while this is upsetting, please stop pointing the finger and ASSUMING that Penn Staters are "drinking the Kool-Aid" or "upset about the football program/ hero" and recognize that Penn State was/ is our home.

I wasn't assuming anything. I was responding to her ridiculous comment that equated the sexual assault victims' need to heal with those in the Penn State community who might require 'healing.'

als463 · #12 07-01-2012, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Greek_or_Geek?

Time after time you go out of your way to prove what an ignorant idiot you are.

I don't always agree with anything she says (practically never) but, resorting to name-calling because someone disagrees with you? It's pretty hard to take your stance seriously when you act like that. Yes, you were ASSUMING that Penn Staters were concerned about our "football program/ hero" and to think that people who currently attend or have attended aren't being shaken by this as well, is pretty ignorant on your part (see, I can name-call too). Do you have ANY IDEA how many of my sisters have been harassed by strangers or, in some cases, by co-workers and supervisors because of everything going on? No, you don't! So, maybe you should take that into account before you start acting like this doesn't affect MANY people on a grand scale. For those of us who work with at-risk youth (many of whom have been victimized) don't try telling me that we all care about our program and NOT about kids.

NutBrnHair · #13 07-01-2012, 03:01 PM

Geez... thanks.

als463 · #14 07-01-2012, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by NutBrnHair

Geez... thanks.

I hope I didn't offend you. I did not mean to hurt your feelings. I was just saying that we don't always see eye-to-eye on certain issues (tiers/ rankings). It was not a slight against you. I still think you are a wonderful person. I apologize if I hurt your feelings.

NutBrnHair · #15 07-01-2012, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Greek_or_Geek?

I wasn't assuming anything. I was responding to her ridiculous comment that equated the sexual assault victims' need to heal with those in the Penn State community who might require 'healing.'

I do think there are many individuals and groups who need to heal -- for different reasons and different degrees -- sure. And no, I'm not a "Penn State fan."