Hi everyone I'm Scott and I need some help with my situation

[ScottieBoy]

yolo

[trisigma212]

I'm pretty sure you can't look at fraternities in either the IFC or NPHC. Once you are initiated, you are a member for life.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by trisigma212

I'm pretty sure you can't look at fraternities in either the IFC or NPHC. Once you are initiated, you are a member for life.

I'm pretty sure you're right.

[trisigma212]

Originally Posted by Kevin

I'm pretty sure you're right.

hey I didn't want to step on any toes. I'm not in either conference.

I do believe there is a possibility if his nationals allows him to resign his membership. But that means that whatever group he wants to join allows that sort of thing, which some don't.

However, it's extremely unlikely that would happen on the same campus.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by trisigma212

I do believe there is a possibility if his nationals allows him to resign his membership. But that means that whatever group he wants to join allows that sort of thing, which some don't.

In NIC-world (IFC is a local campus group; the NIC is the national conference) and from the NIC's perspective, once you have been initiated into a member fraternity, you can only be initiated into a different fraternity if the first fraternity HQ informs the second fraternity HQ in writing that you are no longer a member of first fraternity. I say from the NIC's perspective because, as members of different fraternities have said here from time to time, even if NIC rules would allow initiation into the second fraternity, many NIC fraternities (which includes the fraternities you listed and all but one of the NPHC fraternities) have their own rules or policies prohibiting it. And even if a national fraternity didn't have rules or policies prohibiting it, chapters still may not be willing to consider it.

The guy in your Greek office should know better.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by ScottieBoy

I tried being rush chair however, they wouldn't allow it and even if I did, it would hard to compete with the bigger fraternities.

Who is "they"? Why wouldn't "they" allow it? Unless your grades are completely abysmal, I have a hard time believing that your national HQ wouldn't be excited about a guy who wants to be rush chair that badly.

Hole in story, does not compute.

[jazing]

Originally Posted by trisigma212

I'm pretty sure you can't look at fraternities in either the IFC or NPHC. Once you are initiated, you are a member for life.

I believe that is just a campus wide thing. You can go to another campus and do it, its just frowned upon and makes you question your own commitments.

I know of a few examples that have done it at different campuses, and one that did it in the same campus.

[AZTheta]

Originally Posted by jazing

I believe that is just a campus wide thing. You can go to another campus and do it, its just frowned upon and makes you question your own commitments.

I know of a few examples that have done it at different campuses, and one that did it in the same campus.

MysticCat posted the correct information. OP, I would recommend following that advice.

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by jazing

I believe that is just a campus wide thing. You can go to another campus and do it, its just frowned upon and makes you question your own commitments.

I know of a few examples that have done it at different campuses, and one that did it in the same campus.

You actually know a handful of people who have been initiated into one NIC fraternity, dropped, then joined another? I find that hard to believe. And if you do, I'm willing to bet they didn't go through the proper channels to get this done.

And no, it's not a "campus thing"... These are national policies set forth by each individual NIC organization.

Again, MysticCat knows what's up.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06

You actually know a handful of people who have been initiated into one NIC fraternity, dropped, then joined another? I find that hard to believe. And if you do, I'm willing to bet they didn't go through the proper channels to get this done.

And no, it's not a "campus thing"... These are national policies set forth by each individual NIC organization.

Again, MysticCat knows what's up.

I know someone who did. I don't believe it's common but I wouldn't say it never happens. It involved a transfer student and his prior affiliation was never disclosed to his second fraternity. I can also see situations where the local chapter could sort of "look the other way" or "DADT" if they really wanted the guy for whatever reason. Not all chapters walk the straight and narrow.
BUT
I really can't see these other groups taking this guy as a member knowing that he has already been initiated by a fraternity on the same campus. And last but not least, I've never heard of any NIC Fraternity allowing former or current members of other NIC Fraternities to be initiated into their org (other than in instances of a merger).

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

I know someone who did. I don't believe it's common but I wouldn't say it never happens. It involved a transfer student and his prior affiliation was never disclosed to his second fraternity. I can also see situations where the local chapter could sort of "look the other way" or "DADT" if they really wanted the guy for whatever reason. Not all chapters walk the straight and narrow.

I never said it can't happen.. Just that it's a little unbelievable that someone would know 5 people who have done it.

And that was my point - that if it IS true, I guarantee that not all of them went about it by the book.

I just wouldn't suggest this guy put all of his hopes on "maybe this other fraternity's chapter members won't care and I can join anyway." .. Because even if that was the case, all it would take is for one of the members from his original fraternity contacting the national organization of the new one for everything to go to hell.

[Gusteau]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

In NIC-world (IFC is a local campus group; the NIC is the national conference) and from the NIC's perspective, once you have been initiated into a member fraternity, you can only be initiated into a different fraternity if the first fraternity HQ informs the second fraternity HQ in writing that you are no longer a member of first fraternity. I say from the NIC's perspective because, as members of different fraternities have said here from time to time, even if NIC rules would allow initiation into the second fraternity, many NIC fraternities (which includes the fraternities you listed and all but one of the NPHC fraternities) have their own rules or policies prohibiting it. And even if a national fraternity didn't have rules or policies prohibiting it, chapters still may not be willing to consider it.

The guy in your Greek office should know better.

Right. Many groups will not release you to membership in another group, and some groups will not accept the release from another group.

If you are a Delta Chi we will not release you from membership to another group, nor will we accept a member who has been released from another group.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by Gusteau

Right. Many groups will not release you to membership in another group, and some groups will not accept the release from another group.

If you are a Delta Chi we will not release you from membership to another group, nor will we accept a member who has been released from another group.

Huh? Are you saying that a HQ will not honor someone's request to disaffiliate (regardless of that person's motivations)?

[jazing]

I think the harder part is finding a group that would actually allow such a thing.

AEPi's open laws state: "Initiation into this fraternity confers membership for life"

You should think about that when making the decision.

[Gusteau]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Huh? Are you saying that a HQ will not honor someone's request to disaffiliate (regardless of that person's motivations)?

Not quite. Delta Chi will allow someone to resign their membership, but we will not provide a letter stating they may join another group. I know we're not alone in this.