Dozens brawl outside a McDonalds in SJ

Elephant Walk · #1 06-11-2011, 04:26 AM

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/201...own-san-.jose/

Police said a small crowd started gathering before it quickly turned into a mob of more than 100 people, many of who began screaming, yelling, and throwing punches when a fight broke out.

Witnesses said the friends of one of the stabbing victims literally dragged him into a car and tried fleeing the scene, but police stopped them before they could get away

I feel like these are happening more these days, but maybe its the ever growing invasiveness of the media.

FSUZeta · #2 06-11-2011, 08:36 AM

my husband mentioned hearing about some mob robberies that occured in chicago. have you heard anything on that?

DaffyKD · #3 06-11-2011, 10:11 AM

My son are in a hotel about 3 blocks from that McDonald's while we take care of all the transfer meetings and paperwork for him to go to SJSU. Walked right by the McDonald's about an hour earlier to go get ice cream across the street. There was a concert in the park with a large group of people milling around. The police presence was very obvious as we walked down the street to get our ice cream, but was not as prevalent as we came back.

DrPhil · #4 06-11-2011, 10:25 AM

I think the media is just reporting on these things more. Previously, I wouldn't know about some idiots fighting at a SJ McDonalds.

33girl · #5 06-11-2011, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil

I think the media is just reporting on these things more. Previously, I wouldn't know about some idiots fighting at a SJ McDonalds.

I agree. Why is this national news?

BluPhire · #6 06-11-2011, 11:03 AM

I believe it is media reporting more. I remember before Columbine, there were school shootings, but Columbine made people think this was something new and disturbing, when it was always happening.

KSig RC · #7 06-11-2011, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl

I agree. Why is this national news?

Mild latent racism?

33girl · #8 06-11-2011, 03:09 PM

Me? No. I didn't really pay attention to that, I had to go back and see what you were talking about. If anything, the news should be that McDonald's can't police their property in an appropriate manner.

KSig RC · #9 06-11-2011, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl

Me? No. I didn't really pay attention to that, I had to go back and see what you were talking about. If anything, the news should be that McDonald's can't police their property in an appropriate manner.

No, I mean that this is 'news' because it caters to a certain form of mild latent racism (more likely prejudice, actually) that still exists within society at large more than in individuals.

For instance, every year there are a dozen rapes at Bonnaroo, but there's no outcry about it in media coverage. Eyes, page-views and click-throughs are drawn to certain stories, and the media covers those stories disproportionally.

Drolefille · #10 06-11-2011, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KSig RC

No, I mean that this is 'news' because it caters to a certain form of mild latent racism (more likely prejudice, actually) that still exists within society at large more than in individuals.

For instance, every year there are a dozen rapes at Bonnaroo, but there's no outcry about it in media coverage. Eyes, page-views and click-throughs are drawn to certain stories, and the media covers those stories disproportionally.

Elephant Walk · #11 06-11-2011, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KSig RC

For instance, every year there are a dozen rapes at Bonnaroo, but there's no outcry about it in media coverage.

Link?

christiangirl · #12 06-11-2011, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl

I agree. Why is this national news?

Well, a fight at McDonald's isn't a big deal but one involving over 100 people is. And is this national news? That clip was from a local station, I thought (I didn't look that closely though).

PeppyGPhiB · #13 06-12-2011, 02:55 AM

We hear about these stories now because of the Internet. In years past, stories like this one were printed in the local paper and reported on by the local TV station, and that's where it ended (because it wasn't a big enough deal to warrant coverage by the big, expensive national newspapers and network TV). These days, news stories run on newspapers' and TV stations' websites, where readers/viewers copy/paste the article or URL to Facebook, Twitter and websites like this one.

PiKA2001 · #14 06-12-2011, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl

I agree. Why is this national news?

Is it? I watched CNN today and check about 4 new sites every day and GC is the only place I've seen this story. The article linked is from a CBS affiliate out of San Fran.

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Originally Posted by christiangirl

Well, a fight at McDonald's isn't a big deal but one involving over 100 people is. And is this national news? That clip was from a local station, I thought (I didn't look that closely though).

My thoughts as well. San Jose is in the local area of San Fran so I would hope that it would make the news there. And yes, if it really did look like a riot going on in the streets, that is newsworthy to locals.

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Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB

We hear about these stories now because of the Internet. In years past, stories like this one were printed in the local paper and reported on by the local TV station, and that's where it ended (because it wasn't a big enough deal to warrant coverage by the big, expensive national newspapers and network TV). These days, news stories run on newspapers' and TV stations' websites, where readers/viewers copy/paste the article or URL to Facebook, Twitter and websites like this one.

I agree.

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Originally Posted by KSig RC

No, I mean that this is 'news' because it caters to a certain form of mild latent racism (more likely prejudice, actually) that still exists within society at large more than in individuals.

For instance, every year there are a dozen rapes at Bonnaroo, but there's no outcry about it in media coverage. Eyes, page-views and click-throughs are drawn to certain stories, and the media covers those stories disproportionally.

So what your saying is that if this was 100 white people going crazy here San Jose and the San Francisco media outlets would have turned the other way and not have reported it? I doubt that. I also have to call BS on all the Bonnaroo rapes unless you have some source you can provide. I've never been to Bonnaroo but I've been to plenty of other huge festivals (Coachella, Lollapalooza) and I've never seen any kind of mass scale violence occur. You may be thinking of Woodstock 99, which was a hot mess and received intense media attention at the time to what happened there.