since when has good values become "old fashioned" or almost non existence?

[RHOyal-Silence]

ladies, i am probably considered to be "old-fashioned" (i am only 23)
but i do believe in the concept of being a lady.

i was talking to a freind who was going through issues with men basically because of sex. when i told her "how about waiting for marriage or at least for love" she looked at me and laughed.

another friend insists on being loud and does a lot of cussing in public. when i mentioned that it is unlady like she laughed at me also.

is it a crime to act like a lady?
why have most women my age not learned these fundamental values?
or am i just too too too old-fashioned?

[kizzie]

I agree with you sorror.I feel like a man has more respect for a woman who has respect for herself.

[prettypoodle6]

soror, you're definately not old fashioned.... times change and things do too but simple manners are not supposed to go out of style!

[SeriousSigma22]

Soror,

I also agree with you about this very sad but true topic. There are very few ladies walking around here with any decent morals and values. Just look at BET and MTV because the majority of the time we just see a bunch of women acting like the biggest garden tools. It is like they don't have any basic home training. They act like if you don't act like a garden tool or if you don't have sex with your man that something must be wrong with you. I've been teaching high school for nine years and I swear that 97% of the females have had sex by the time they complete their ninth grade year. I teach all levels of high school and you should see the kids in the hallway. They behave like animals in heat!

I don't think that teens and young adults today know what the word morals mean.
We are living in a very sad and dark state.
Great topic!

[silent1]

I was raised to say yes maam, no sir to my elders. Now a days I am lucky if the kids do not cuss me out.
To answer your question no you are not old fashion at all.

[TRSimon]

A lot of parents don't place importance on manners and morals like they did in the past. A lot of them are over worked or so busy trying to buy their children, that they have lost sight of their role in their children's development.
Manners and morals will never go out of style. They are a sign of consideration for others, and that can only bring about good. People respect us when we respect ourselves. That will never change.

[lil_sunshine]

YOU'RE NOT OLD-FASHIONED!!!! If some people consider you to be any such thing, it's only b/c they leave their home training at home on too many occasions. I'm 24, and I was always taught that manners and morals don't cost anything and anyone who thinks it takes too much energy to act like a lady or gentleman in public needs to be schooled on the ways of our ancestors!!! Strict discipline is in need for those people.

[Imperial11]

Originally posted by RHOyal-Silence
another friend insists on being loud and does a lot of cussing in public. when i mentioned that it is unlady like she laughed at me also.

I have an associate who does this very same thing. Her behavior in public is preposterous. She is soooo embarrassing to be around. And don't let her be on her cell phone , you may as well walk 20 steps ahead of her if you're walking or excuse yourself to the restroom if you are seated, because she will SHAME you big time if she's on that darned phone!!!!

This type of behavior (I believe) begins at home. The girl that I spoke of above has a mother and aunts who do the same thing. Bad genes I guess.

[Lauren80]

I don't think that you are old fashioned but your mother certainly did raise you properly. People/children don't come out the womb acting the that they do... it has to do with their home training-- your parents are your first teachers. It is not just adults...it's children too that are acting all wild. I am a woman now (21) but when I was in elementary, middle, and high school I knew how to act and speak to people. Perfect example of children acting wild... I substitute at a school in PG county MD and I volunteered to be a chaperone (sp?) at their 6th grade dance. I was happy until I saw the conduct of the young ladies at this dance. These 6 grade girls (11 and 12) are pushed all up on the boys hard (worse then at the club with grown folks), doing these freaky dances, and not caring because half of their parents are there. The worse part was THE PARENTS DID NOT CARE.... :-o

But for adult women, they have no excuse...you need to act like a lady.

Lauuren80

[NinjaPoodle]

You are not old-fashioned! Home training is a good thing!!

[ClassyLady]

Home training needs to be put on the endangered species list. So many people have no idea what manners are.

Ms. Silence, I have a friend just like yours. Somewhere along the line, she never learned how to behave like a lady in public. For me, what you do in your home is your business, but when you step outside, you need to behave properly. My friend curses all the time and she has no table manners. I love to go out to eat with my friends, but I can never bring her along. She chews with her mouth open and doesn't even know the correct way to hold a fork and knife. I just don't know where she gets her bad manners from because her mother and sister are perfect ladies when they go out.

My mother taught me and my sisters how to be ladies, not just women. She always said that our manners, or lack thereof, are reflections of her and she'll "be d#$%ed if I'll have people saying that my girls don't know how to act."

[novella000]

i feel you on that...
NO ONE seems to practice ettiquette, at least in public, anymore. the only time i was ever allowed, as a child, to be loud/obnoxious was when my cousins and i played in our BASEMENT (lmao)

this is kinda related
i was picking my son up from "school" the other day and one of the teachers complimented me on his manners... she thought it was soooo cute that he says "yes ma'am", "no ma'am", and "thank you"...

It's almost abnormal for people to have manners or consideration for their public appearance these days... Women don't even cross their legs anymore.
This girl at my job said I was "funny acting" and they thought I was "stuck up" b/c I sit up straight and cross my legs at the ankles, and also b/c walk with my back straight. I told her that I try not to slouch b/c I was taught that it was somewhat manly... and she thought that was hilarious "you aint gotta be all s'ditty, it's just the break room..." hunh?!?!

[Fine RHOyalty]

... and my all time favorites...

1. sneezing without covering your mouth

2. ladies wearing TOO-SHAWT skirts/shorts where their cheeks show

3. ladies who scratch ALL in their head in public

4. ladies who think walking with your head up is acting stuck up

5. ladies who think I'M crazy for excusing myself to the restroom or away from the crowd to blow my nose. I just think it's considerate!

[SeriousSigma22]

Fine Rhoyalty,

You are so right! I see so many bad habits from a lot of junior and senior females in my classroom! They are so untrained and act like one of the fellas, then they wonder why no one decent wants to date or talk to them!

They just do get it!

Good manners and acting like a lady goes such a long way!

Serioussigma22

[ClassyLady]

I know this is the technology age. And, maybe it's just me, but I find it extremely rude to talk on your cell phone at the table, especially at a restaurant.

I recently went out to dinner with a group of people that I worked with. And, two of them actually held conversations at the dinner table . When my cell phone rang, I politely excused myself and left the restaurant to take the call. And, I only did this because it was very important. Normally, I won't answer my phone and just call whoever it was back later.

Well, when I got back to the table, one of the guys that I was there with asked why I had gone through all of the trouble just to answer my phone. When I told him why, he said that I should "just loosen up." Excuse me, but when did loosening up become confused with being rude.

Alright, I'm done venting now