8 year old "single ladies"

[IrishLake]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iCS2W9zF9o

First off, its absolutely awesome how amazing these girls are at dance!!! i cant imagine the talent and training it must take to be that good by the ages of 7 to 9. but.... some of the moves and the outfits are causing an uproar.

personally, i find the outfits cute, but better suited to a 16 year old. not appropriate for 7-9 year olds. i dont have a problem with the dance itself though. a little risque in a few moves, but i am in awe of the entire dance itself!

[ForeverRoses]

I'm fine with the dance- just not the outfits. I guess with the outfits AND the dance, it is a little strange. The girls are fab dancers though! a one-piece outfit could have worked just fine for this dance!

[PiKA2001]

prostitots!

It amazes me that in a society that is all too aware of sexual predators parents are still willing to keep pushing their kids to do this shit. Who only knows what some dirty ass old man is thinking when he sees this.

[chickenoodle]

Damn. Video is gone already.

[ree-Xi]

http://www.popeater.com/2010/05/14/s...-little-girls/

Mad skills but I don't know about it...

[dreamseeker]

Originally Posted by ree-Xi

http://www.popeater.com/2010/05/14/s...-little-girls/

Mad skills but I don't know about it...

the last sentence of the article summed it up for me:

Kate Ward from EW writes, "Miley, you've got nuthin' on these girls ... But if little girls must gyrate on stage, is it absolutely essential they wear midriff tops? Even Beyonce and her back-up dancers were more covered up than this!"

they danced really well but i HATE that outfit.

[bostongreek]

outfits are not only inappropriate, they're ugly.

but those girls are insanely talented... their timing is pretty much perfect!

[MUSK81]

The dance wasn't too bad, except for the crotch shots, but the outfits were waaaaay inappropriate! People push girls to be attractive to boys, to dress provocatively, wear makeup, etc., the wonder why they turn up pregnant when they're 15.

[PM_Mama00]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

prostitots!

It amazes me that in a society that is all too aware of sexual predators parents are still willing to keep pushing their kids to do this shit. Who only knows what some dirty ass old man is thinking when he sees this.

Totally agree. It's disgusting that parents teach their kids that it's ok to dress like this. These girls are YOUNG, they don't know the difference between wrong and right yet. Yes, they are just dance costumes, but do they really know that?

As for the dance, very talented, but why does an 8 year old know how to pop their booty like that? Inappropriate. There's a way to showcase their skills without making them look like minihos.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

prostitots!

It amazes me that in a society that is all too aware of sexual predators parents are still willing to keep pushing their kids to do this shit. Who only knows what some dirty ass old man is thinking when he sees this.

Some "dirty ass old man" will jerk off at kids playing fully clothed in the park. Just like it's wrong to tell a woman to cover up so she won't get raped, it's wrong to dress your child based on fear of pedophiles. Besides, most child molesters are in the home, not out of it.

Originally Posted by IrishLake

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iCS2W9zF9o

First off, its absolutely awesome how amazing these girls are at dance!!! i cant imagine the talent and training it must take to be that good by the ages of 7 to 9. but.... some of the moves and the outfits are causing an uproar.

personally, i find the outfits cute, but better suited to a 16 year old. not appropriate for 7-9 year olds. i dont have a problem with the dance itself though. a little risque in a few moves, but i am in awe of the entire dance itself!

It's not the coverage that bothers me, it's the making them look like bordello-esque lingerie. I wouldn't think twice about a girl their age wearing a bikini on the beach covering probably less than that outfit.

I think they're very good dancers, apparently that frenetic style is 'in' right now. Beyonce doesn't even move that much or that fast during the video.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Some "dirty ass old man" will jerk off at kids playing fully clothed in the park. Just like it's wrong to tell a woman to cover up so she won't get raped, it's wrong to dress your child based on fear of pedophiles. Besides, most child molesters are in the home, not out of it.

Really??? I never meant to imply that you should cover your child up solely to evade pedophiles but what do you gain as a parent from decking her out in "sexy" attire?

I believe it's wrong to over sexualize your child; I'm sorry if you don't see a problem in putting a 7 year old on youtube dressed and dancing like that.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

Really??? I never meant to imply that you should cover your child up solely to evade pedophiles but what do you gain as a parent from decking her out in "sexy" attire?

I believe it's wrong to over sexualize your child; I'm sorry if you don't see a problem in putting a 7 year old on youtube dressed and dancing like that.

They put them on stage at the World of Dance IIRC, not specifically on Youtube. (The parents that is.) My argument is not about how they should dress, but the reasoning behind it. You said, "in a society all too aware of sexual predators." Sexual predators should have no bearing in how you dress your child. There are children at nudist camps, children on the beach in swim suits, children raised with strong taboos about modesty. Kids are raised with the values of their parents and that is what their clothing should be based on. Judge it all you want, that's what we do when we have these discussions.

I just take issue with the concept that sexual predators should be a part of that decision making process. (The same that I take issue that rapists should be a part of my thought process when I put clothes on.)

[ree-Xi]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

prostitots!

It amazes me that in a society that is all too aware of sexual predators parents are still willing to keep pushing their kids to do this shit. Who only knows what some dirty ass old man is thinking when he sees this.

FYI sexual abuse/molestation/rape is not driven by lust; it's a crime of violence and abuse of power. Blaming the victim on immodest dressing or enticing behavior only exacerbates the perception.

What about the babies who are molested? Or the rape of a 70-year old grandma in an ankle-length dress and sensible shoes?

I agree that the costumes and many of the dance moves are inappropriate for 7-9 year olds. Some people will claim that the style of dance recital/competition costumes are skimpy to allow freedom of movement, but the tiny Moulin-Rouge inspired two-piece and thigh high boots can be replaced with one-piece costumes and jazz shoes.

Perhaps it's the song itself that is the root of the problem. What do 7-9 year olds understand about being single adult who is looking not for casual hookups, but a marriage. Modern music is fine, but perhaps choose a song without the adult themes and overtones, and you won't have to put in suggestive movements to express the lyrical sentiments of the song.

There is a rebuttal interview of the some of the parents of the girls, found here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fs8sui4N3wE

Some of the parents said that the dance was based on the Chipmunks movie. One dad said that his kid "has real high energy" and "really doesn't know what she's doing". He said that parts of it wasn't even choreographed, that the kids came up with it themselves. EXACTLY. If some of those movements come naturally to these kids, that scares me.

The mom also said that the kids only wear the costumes for 2 minutes on a stage, and not out on the street. Hello, you're still exposing your child to dress and perform suggestively, and it's obvious that the kids spent more than 2 minutes rehearsing the routine.

I used to dance and perform in musicals, and in HS, some of my dance costumes were a bit revealing, but I never even showed my midriff. If the tops were skimpy, there was a skirt. If the bottoms were skimpy (leotard), the top was high-necked or long-sleeved.

I don't agree with the song choice, the costumes or a lot of the dance moves, but I'm not the parents, so my opinion doesn't really matter.

[ms_gwyn]

I'm going to be the voice of descent here and you can flame me....you wouldn't know it by looking at me now...but I basically was a dancer up until I was age 21, some of those moves you need freedom of movement.

I don't see anything wrong with the costumes nor the dance moves...

but meh whatever

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by ree-Xi

FYI sexual abuse/molestation/rape is not driven by lust; it's a crime of violence and abuse of power. Blaming the victim on immodest dressing or enticing behavior only exacerbates the perception.

What about the babies who are molested? Or the rape of a 70-year old grandma in an ankle-length dress and sensible shoes?

Precisely. There are very few people who are truly sexually oriented towards children.The vast majority are crimes of opportunity combined with ... well far to many things to get into but suffice to say violence/power/completely screwed up coping skills and thought processes.