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Old 02-07-2010, 10:38 AM
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Palin gives keynote speech at 'tea party' gathering

NASHVILLE, Tenn. – Sarah Palin, in a speech that was short on ideas but big on enthusiasm, took aim at President Barack Obama and the Democrats, telling a gathering of "tea party" activists that America is ripe for another revolution.

Noting his party's dismal showing in elections since Obama moved into the White House a year ago with talk of hope and promises of change, Palin asked the gathering: "How's that hope-y, change-y stuff workin' out for you?"

Her audience waved flags and erupted in cheers during multiple standing ovations as the 2008 GOP vice presidential nominee gave the keynote address Saturday at the first national convention of the "tea party" coalition. It's an antiestablishment, grass-roots network motivated by anger over the growth of government, budget-busting spending and Obama's policies.
Palin's 45-minute talk was filled with her trademark folksy jokes and amounted to a pep talk for the coalition and promotion of its principles.
The speech also was rife with criticism for Obama and the Democrats who control Congress, but delivered with a light touch. Aside from broad conservative principles like lower taxes and a strong national defense, the speech was short on Palin's own policy ideas that typically indicate someone is seriously laying the groundwork to run for the White House.
Indeed, Republican observers say she's seemingly done more lately to establish herself as a political celebrity focused on publicity rather than a political candidate focused on policy.

Catering to her crowd, Palin talked of limited government, strict adherence to the Constitution, and the "God-given right" of freedom. She said the "fresh, young and fragile" movement is the future of American politics because it's "a ground-up call to action" to both major political parties to change how they do business.

"America is ready for another revolution!" she told the gathering.
Palin suggested the movement should remain leaderless and cautioned against allowing it to be defined by any one person.

"Let us not get bogged down in the small squabbles. Let us get caught up in the big ideas," she said, though she offered few of her own.

The former Alaska governor, who resigned from office last summer before completing her first term, didn't indicate whether her political future would extend beyond cable news punditry and paid speeches to an actual presidential candidacy.

All she offered was a smile when a moderator asking her questions used the phrase "President Palin." That prompted most in the audience to stand up and chant "Run, Sarah, Run!"

But, given the plethora of attacks that Palin leveled at Obama, she seemed like she was already running against him. And, perhaps, as an independent.
She talked little about the Republican Party and encouraged "tea party"-aligned candidates to compete in GOP primaries.

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GCers as a whole what are your thoughts on the tea party movement?
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Old 02-07-2010, 12:59 PM
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Old 02-07-2010, 01:02 PM
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From the title and preview to this, my mental image was something like:

"Sarah Palin goes to a ladies tea in Tennessee, overturns a plate of cucumber sandwiches and gives a highly inappropriate political speech - Southern women clutch pearls."

I kind of liked my version better...
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Old 02-07-2010, 04:59 PM
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From the title and preview to this, my mental image was something like:

"Sarah Palin goes to a ladies tea in Tennessee, overturns a plate of cucumber sandwiches and gives a highly inappropriate political speech - Southern women clutch pearls."

I kind of liked my version better...
I like Sarah Palin, but I found your image hilarious, especially the part of Southern women clutching their pearls lol! Thank you for sharing
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Old 02-07-2010, 05:04 PM
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On a serious note, I really enjoyed her speech. However, it is important to note that Tea Party folks are more than just disgruntled conservatives. There are many disgruntled democrats and independents in that movement as well because neither party has been holding to its principles. I would like to see one of the more conservative democrats be a keynote speaker at one of those events.
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Old 02-07-2010, 05:13 PM
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However, it is important to note that Tea Party folks are more than just disgruntled conservatives. There are many disgruntled democrats and independents in that movement as well because neither party has been holding to its principles. I would like to see one of the more conservative democrats be a keynote speaker at one of those events.
I'll agree with this - while I don't see myself ever attending a Tea Party, I know of some pretty sensible, intelligent people who have attended. There are some crazies, of course, just like any large gathering.

I am not a Sarah Palin fan, though. I'm hoping she becomes politically irrelevant by the time the 2012 election comes around, or that quitting as Governor of Alaska ends up hurting her election prospects.
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Old 02-08-2010, 03:16 AM
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I saw her speech and I actually enjoyed it. I will agree that it didn't have many definitive strategies included in it, but I found it entertaining and informative. I would NEVER vote for her for President, but I think that since things have died down with the election and her private life, she has done well in the spotlight.

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On a serious note, I really enjoyed her speech. However, it is important to note that Tea Party folks are more than just disgruntled conservatives. There are many disgruntled democrats and independents in that movement as well because neither party has been holding to its principles. I would like to see one of the more conservative democrats be a keynote speaker at one of those events.
And during the question and answer portion following the speech, she said that she would love if people from all areas of the political spectrum became involved in the movement.

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I am not a Sarah Palin fan, though. I'm hoping she becomes politically irrelevant by the time the 2012 election comes around, or that quitting as Governor of Alaska ends up hurting her election prospects.
I think that whatever she chose to do, she was screwed. Naturally people saw her leaving office as a political nosedive, but the alternative was to stay in a state that is clearly a VERY good distance from Washington, DC (and the rest of the continental United States). Running a presidential campaign while in Alaska would have been EXTREMELY difficult.

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This is to all who think the Tea Party movement is a minority. They may be small right now but they are growing everyday. I don't think they are going to be a minority by the 2012 elections and they are going to make their presence known loudly and clearly! Mark my words, they will be a force to be reckoned with by 2012!
And I hope they are! And not just because I don't agree with many of the things that are occurring in DC today, but because it's great to see people finally standing up for what they believe in! The people of this country, for so long, had simply sat on the sidelines and hoped for the best. I'm glad that people, once again, truly feel the need to be heard.
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Old 02-08-2010, 08:46 AM
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I'd take the Tea Party seriously if they didn't have Sarah Palin as a keynote speaker. Maybe she's a nice lady and all, but she's not Commander in Chief material. I mean, she's just fine at giving speeches and making folksy statements, but running a country requires a different skill set.

Let's assume for the sake of argument that the lady's electable. Does anyone think she actually has the skill set or organizational ability to follow through with making any of her stated policies into reality?
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Old 02-08-2010, 09:24 AM
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I think that whatever she chose to do, she was screwed. Naturally people saw her leaving office as a political nosedive, but the alternative was to stay in a state that is clearly a VERY good distance from Washington, DC (and the rest of the continental United States). Running a presidential campaign while in Alaska would have been EXTREMELY difficult.
Well, that's life. Part of being a Presidential contender is that the circumstances have to be right, and there are certain things that you can't change. If you're in an area where it's tough to run a campaign, or where you don't get a lot of national attention...well, that's life.

If being in Alaska cost her a chance to be President...so be it. That's the way things worked out. But, I think it did her a lot more harm to leave office the way she did than it would have for her to just serve out the term and deal with the logistics.

I wouldn't have blamed her if she served out her term and declined to run for re-election. That would have been a completely different story.

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I'd take the Tea Party seriously if they didn't have Sarah Palin as a keynote speaker. Maybe she's a nice lady and all, but she's not Commander in Chief material. I mean, she's just fine at giving speeches and making folksy statements, but running a country requires a different skill set.

Let's assume for the sake of argument that the lady's electable. Does anyone think she actually has the skill set or organizational ability to follow through with making any of her stated policies into reality?
This is my thing. I just don't have a lot of confidence in her skill set, organizational ability, or her intelligence to be President. There's something to be said for surrounding yourself with the right people, but I don't even think she could do that.

I think her best role is what she's doing now: political commentator and conservative "activist." (I also think it's Mike Huckabee's best role as well) I hope that's the role she chooses going into the election. I just don't think she's good for the Republican party, and she represents some issues I as a Republican have with certain factions of the party.
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Old 02-08-2010, 10:00 AM
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This is my thing. I just don't have a lot of confidence in her skill set, organizational ability, or her intelligence to be President. There's something to be said for surrounding yourself with the right people, but I don't even think she could do that.

I think her best role is what she's doing now: political commentator and conservative "activist." (I also think it's Mike Huckabee's best role as well) I hope that's the role she chooses going into the election. I just don't think she's good for the Republican party, and she represents some issues I as a Republican have with certain factions of the party.
Trouble is, the folks they surround themselves with these days are probably nothing more than a chorus of yes-men. And in some places, vapid campaigns based upon platitude and being folksy is enough to get you elected.

Here in Oklahoma, where we tend to be a lot more conservative and a lot less educated than most other electorates [that's the only way I can understand someone like her having any sort of success], we recently had a U.S. Rep (Mary Fallin) run commercials saying she stood for "Faith, family and freedom," and based on the fact that she had some name recognition (was Lt. Gov. for a long time) and the mere fact that she was a Republican, she ran away with the election. Now she's about to do the same thing, but this time, she'll be in a position to do some real damage -- she's running for Governor.

My observation as to local politics (and I think it translates nationally) is this -- politics has become less and less about ideas and more and more about name brand promotion. The key is not to actually have ideas people agree with, it's to make people think you have the same ideas they do without ever directly communicating anything. This is accomplished by making folksy common-sense statements, running on platitudes, and above all else, making oneself look like the least-bad choice.

I think the Tea Party concept in itself is meritorious, but it's inevitable that it'll be completely hijacked by special interests at some point. Look for an announcement very soon that 'true conservatism' really means tort reform, increased military spending and deregulation of securities (actually, I think the Heritage Foundation probably beat me to the punch there).
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Old 02-08-2010, 10:27 AM
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Trouble is, the folks they surround themselves with these days are probably nothing more than a chorus of yes-men. And in some places, vapid campaigns based upon platitude and being folksy is enough to get you elected.
I don't know if I'd go that far. To be sure there are going to be some "yes-men" in the crowd. But, there are politicians who surround themselves with smart, capable people. There are some good people working on campaigns, both national and local.

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My observation as to local politics (and I think it translates nationally) is this -- politics has become less and less about ideas and more and more about name brand promotion. The key is not to actually have ideas people agree with, it's to make people think you have the same ideas they do without ever directly communicating anything. This is accomplished by making folksy common-sense statements, running on platitudes, and above all else, making oneself look like the least-bad choice.
I think that could go for any local or national election around the country. It takes so much money to run a campaign these days, let alone a successful one, that candidates have to appeal to those areas of the electorate where 1) they could get votes and 2) they could raise money. If that means focusing on one or two issues and glossing over the others, that's what they'll do.

There's such a thin margin of error with the process, especially in the day of the 24 hour news cycle. If you make a mistake of fact, or you go too far one way or the other, you're done. Look at Howard Dean - he had a lot of momentum, got too excited after a primary, and his campaign was finished. (that may be oversimplifying things, but you get my point)
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Old 02-08-2010, 10:53 AM
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Well, the Tea Party movement's already-specious character (great concept, dubious execution) really isn't helped by having Palin involved.

I mean, her run as AK Governor really went directly against what the Tea Party portrays as its central tenets . . . also, there's the "not that smart, even for a politician" thing.

This smacks of a publicity move by the party - which is yet another step toward "same ol' politics" by the Tea Party.
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Old 02-08-2010, 03:48 PM
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Well, that's life. Part of being a Presidential contender is that the circumstances have to be right, and there are certain things that you can't change. If you're in an area where it's tough to run a campaign, or where you don't get a lot of national attention...well, that's life.

If being in Alaska cost her a chance to be President...so be it. That's the way things worked out. But, I think it did her a lot more harm to leave office the way she did than it would have for her to just serve out the term and deal with the logistics.

I wouldn't have blamed her if she served out her term and declined to run for re-election. That would have been a completely different story.
Trust me, I'm not upset or complaing, "It's not fair!" regarding Palin's chances to be president. I was simply stating that, for the most part, it was a Catch 22 for her. Either decision would probably have helped and hurt her equally.

And no matter what, she doesn't have what it takes to be president.
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Old 02-08-2010, 04:03 PM
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Mark my words, they will be a force to be reckoned with by 2012!
The question is, will they be more than a spoiler group a la Perot's Reform Party.

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Well, the Tea Party movement's already-specious character (great concept, dubious execution) really isn't helped by having Palin involved.

I mean, her run as AK Governor really went directly against what the Tea Party portrays as its central tenets . . . also, there's the "not that smart, even for a politician" thing.
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I'll agree with this - while I don't see myself ever attending a Tea Party, I know of some pretty sensible, intelligent people who have attended. There are some crazies, of course, just like any large gathering.

I am not a Sarah Palin fan, though. I'm hoping she becomes politically irrelevant by the time the 2012 election comes around, or that quitting as Governor of Alaska ends up hurting her election prospects.
It hurt her as far as I'm concerned as a voter. I was a fan; not so much anymore.

As far as the Tea Party stuff, I'm not sure how legitimate the convention was in the eyes of Tea Partiers anyway. I think it ended up going pretty well based on the reports I've read, but the organization seems markedly different than the organization of other Tea Party events, from what I can tell from right wing sites.
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