Most violent interfraternity conflict? (USA)

naraht · #1 07-22-2009, 02:50 PM

The Fraternities in the Philippines have had situations in the 1970s and 1980s where there were rumbles between members of two fraternities (think West side story with letters on everyone or worse) and deaths have occured. (and not just two specific fraternities, most of the larger fraternities in the philippines were involved in an incident at one time or another)

What is the most violent interfraternity conflict in the US/Canada that people have heard of? If it occured due to Alcohol, was there anything that continued things after everyone sobered up?

pshsx1 · #2 07-22-2009, 03:45 PM

Do you mean just between chapters on a campus (or campuses) or issues between whole National organizations?

naraht · #3 07-22-2009, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by pshsx1

Do you mean just between chapters on a campus (or campuses) or issues between whole National organizations?

Either one. I'd be absolutely astounded if things were violent at a multi chapter level in the USA.

Maybe I could see that sort of conflict *very* early in the history of some of the GLOs that were all formed at the same time and same place like the Union, Miami or Lexington Triads, but by the time the NIC was formed, things would have long cooled, I guess.

Xidelt · #4 07-23-2009, 06:03 AM

Are you oldu?

Psi U MC Vito · #5 07-23-2009, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by naraht

The Fraternities in the Philippines have had situations in the 1970s and 1980s where there were rumbles between members of two fraternities (think West side story with letters on everyone or worse) and deaths have occured. (and not just two specific fraternities, most of the larger fraternities in the philippines were involved in an incident at one time or another)

What is the most violent interfraternity conflict in the US/Canada that people have heard of? If it occured due to Alcohol, was there anything that continued things after everyone sobered up?

The problem is that fraternities in the Philippines are little more then gangs with letters. I know we had some problems with a couple of out Filipino brothers because their families didn't understand the difference between here and there.

naraht · #6 07-23-2009, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Xidelt

Are you oldu?

Huh, is there a user called oldu? If there is, I'm not him. I've only posted as naraht.

naraht · #7 07-23-2009, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito

The problem is that fraternities in the Philippines are little more then gangs with letters. I know we had some problems with a couple of out Filipino brothers because their families didn't understand the difference between here and there.

I wouldn't go that far. You certainly don't see senators and presidential nominees being proud of being crips or bloods.

Is this for Alpha Phi Omega or for another group?

Psi U MC Vito · #8 07-23-2009, 02:26 PM

Alpha Phi Omega was one group I heard about specifically.

ETA: The Philippines chapter of APO was what I meant. My social org has some Filipino brothers.

lovespink88 · #9 07-23-2009, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Xidelt

Are you oldu?

I've actually been wondering the same thing myself...

Munchkin03 · #10 07-23-2009, 03:27 PM

At my college, there were indeed intrafraternity conflicts that erupted in violence--back in the 1950s! It got so bad at one point that one day, there were knife fights and one fraternity member died in a drunken fall. That basically forced the University to build an awesome (by 1950s standards) "Greek Village" for the Greeks to bring them back on campus, since they had lived in shoddy off-campus houses.

I wrote my senior honors thesis on the architect who designed these, and other, buildings at my college. That's why I know what happened.

naraht · #11 07-23-2009, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by lovespink88

I've actually been wondering the same thing myself...

Can someone please direct me to posts by oldu, I'm intrigued to find out whose contributions to greekchat might be close enough to confuse.

I'm an Alpha Phi Omega alumnus (pledged 1986, initiated 1990) and live in the Washington DC area. I'm on the Alpha Phi Omega International Relations Committee and the National History and Archives Cmte.

Kevin · #12 07-23-2009, 04:08 PM

I've known there to be brawls and violent attacks with people ending up in the hospital. These things happen for various reasons. Couldn't tell you anything specific. Mostly stuff pertaining to either alcohol or females or both.

Munchkin03 · #13 07-23-2009, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Xidelt

Are you oldu?

No, I don't think so. oldu is a relatively new GC member, while naraht has been here longer than most people, myself included.

33girl · #14 07-23-2009, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Xidelt

Are you oldu?

NO!! Naraht is my cool APO brother. oldu is effing obnoxious.

If this was an oldu post, he would have said that if the smaller fraternities all merged it would prevent conflicts and that the big fraternities are always in danger because everyone wants to be them.

LadyLonghorn · #15 07-23-2009, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl

If this was an oldu post, he would have said that if the smaller fraternities all merged it would prevent conflicts and that the big fraternities are always in danger because everyone wants to be them.

Not to completely derail this topic, but I've always wondered how OldU defines small versus large when it comes to GLOs. Do we get points for every member we have? Number of chapters? Age?