First use of Q for letter Omega?

[naraht]

I'm trying to research when the letter Q was first used at HBCUs to represent the letter Omega. This is almost certainly the same as trying find out when Omega Psi Phi itself used Que as an abbrevation, but I'd like to find out both when it was first used for Omega Psi Phi and whether the abbrevation came from inside the Fraternity itself or was first used by others (perhaps originally derogatorily?)

I'm not looking for a specific day or year (though that would be extraordinary). Comments like "it was in regular use by the 1950s" would be helpful..

Thank You
Randolph Finder

[20PearlGirl]

*CRICKETS*

[naraht]

Originally Posted by 20PearlGirl

*CRICKETS*

Yup, crickets, but still hoping for an answer. I figured this was the place to ask.

[20PearlGirl]

Originally Posted by naraht

Yup, crickets, but still hoping for an answer. I figured this was the place to ask.

Nah dude. You will NOT get an answer on this board from a Que, trust and believe.

[Senusret I]

You seem to be pretty invested in the Omega forum.

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by naraht

I'm trying to research when the letter Q was first used at HBCUs to represent the letter Omega. This is almost certainly the same as trying find out when Omega Psi Phi itself used Que as an abbrevation, but I'd like to find out both when it was first used for Omega Psi Phi and whether the abbrevation came from inside the Fraternity itself or was first used by others (perhaps originally derogatorily?)

I'm not looking for a specific day or year (though that would be extraordinary). Comments like "it was in regular use by the 1950s" would be helpful..

Thank You
Randolph Finder

Anyway brother, I think we've spoken about this offline (at Cheesecake Factory?), but I think Black Greek 101 will be your best resource. As you know, a lot of BGLO traditions can't be traced to even a specific decade because of the lack of research and the reliance on oral history.

[PerroLoco]

BlackGreek 101 is a good resource but some of the info is slightly off. The standard reason given is good enough for public consumption.

Also Sensuret, your frat brother Wal;ter Kimbrough is a great disseminator of mis-information. I saw him do an interview in which he stated the Omegas have no particular reason for some of our traditions, etc, as if he was the arbiter of such knowledge.

Oh yeah, the question, "Q" is just a letter until you become one.

[Senusret I]

Traditions such as?

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

Traditions such as?

Did that comment strike you as odd? Or was it just me.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by PerroLoco

BlackGreek 101 is a good resource but some of the info is slightly off. The standard reason given is good enough for public consumption.

Also Sensuret, your frat brother Wal;ter Kimbrough is a great disseminator of mis-information. I saw him do an interview in which he stated the Omegas have no particular reason for some of our traditions, etc, as if he was the arbiter of such knowledge.

Oh yeah, the question, "Q" is just a letter until you become one.

This is one of the longest nonanswers ever.

If you wouldn't post the "standard reason" then why not just say it's either none of his business or "do your own research?"

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

Did that comment strike you as odd? Or was it just me.

Not only odd..... but several posters are misinterpreting the question.

Ain't nobody asking what Que means.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

Ain't nobody asking what Que means.

Right.

To reiterate:

The question is when did the Omegas start using "Q" as in "Q Psi Phi." There are HBCU chapters of APO that use A-Phi-Q and I think the why has been discussed on here before.

[naraht]

I am *not* asking WHY Omega Phi Phi does it. I am asking WHEN. If someone mentions a why, that is fine and interesting, but not the original question

Yes, I would also like to know when the historically black chapters of Alpha Phi Omega started being refered to by A Phi Q however, first, this isn't the board to ask that, and second, I would be absolutely flabbergasted if the Alpha Phi Omega chapters did it first. Omega Psi Phi was about 35 years old when the first Alpha Phi Omega chapter at an HBCU was founded.

Randy

[20PearlGirl]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

You seem to be pretty invested in the Omega forum.

Are you fonting to me? If so I post in alot of forums. But yes, I like the P&G. Is that ok with you, Phrat? I'll be over to show y'all some love too.

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by 20PearlGirl

Are you fonting to me? If so I post in alot of forums. But yes, I like the P&G. Is that ok with you, Phrat? I'll be over to show y'all some love too.

...okay.