What makes you real or paper when pledging Blk frats or soros?

You just love starting these kinds of threads dont you? As long as Black Greeks get bogged down in these kinds of topics that are more divisive than anything you wont ever utilize the kind of power you could have.

I think I said in another post that I'm an interest. But the more I read what Greeks write in these chat rooms the more discouraged I get. There really is no unity. Not even in your own organizations. Well this is all apart of my research so I guess it serves its purpose.

[ZetaAce]

Maxie-Don't be discouraged. The majority of the Greeks are positive people. They are working hard to uplift our communities. Don't let a few negative things deter you from what is overall a positive experience.

This may just be my opinion, but a lot of people start these threads (see: KAPSI/Omega/APhiA who's best?) and then they don't post again until they start another controversial topic.


ZetaAce

MY POINT EXACTLY MAXI! I STARTED A THREAD AND SOME HATER DELETED IT CAUSE IT WAS THE TRUTH YA DIG. I WAS JUST SAYING HOW THE GREEKS ON MY CAMPUS ACTED AND THEY SAY I AM LYING AND STUFF BUT I AM COOL CAUSE I KNOW THE TRUTH. BUT NAW THERE IS NO UNITY THEY ALL SEEM TO ONLY BE OUT TO BE BETTER THAN THE OTHER YA KNOW AND THAT IS CHILDISH AND IMMATURE. THEY HATE TO ADMIT BUT SOME OF THEM HAVE LOST SITE OF THEIR GOALS AND PURPOSE AND REGARDLESS OF WHAT I SAID IN MY ORIGINAL THREAD.....YOU CAN SEE PROOF OF THAT WHEN YOU READ THESE FORUMS. SOME GREEKS AND NON-GREEKS LIKE TO PRETEND THAT EVERY THING IS PEACHY AMONG THEM BUT THE TRUTH IS THEY ALL HAVE SOME SORORS AND FRATS OUT THERE MAKING THEIR ORGANIZATION LOOK VERY BAD AND UNATTRACTIVE TO PROSPECTS......AND A LOT OF THOSE BAD SEEDS POST IN THESE FORUMS.

[Discogoddess]

A lot of negative people, greek AND nongreek, post in these forums, perhaps as a form of entertainment, but never for enlightenment, so it seems. What's most interesting to me are those who post here, yet claim to want no part of the greek world. I wonder what keeps them coming back, if in fact greeks are so negative/harmful?

God speed in all your endeavors, Maxie and others, whether that includes seeking membership in a BGLO or not.

DG

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Good point/question, Discogoddess!

[daruler]

What is up with you, Burningsands? You always start these topics that you know are going to incite controversy and ultimately bickering. Why don't you take that negativity and turn it on it's head into positivity--you would get a lot more done.

[BurningSands]

First of all, I only post these topics for a group forum or discussion. So we as frats, soros & what-ever organization, kan understand the reason behind pledging or functions within the organiztions. I don't post topics to hurt nor degrade another organiztion. If I have offended anyone by posting this topics then I APOLOGIZE. Look at the forum and tell me who gets the most replies. I see all type of positive topics and not very many people are responding. So please, don't criticize me for my topics. I'm posting topics that people will respond to & have something to talk about. "MAXIE" you say post positive topics, what I post is positive. The Truth & you know it. People here voice their opinion. I provide a topic that's all. THIS IS A CHAT ROOM, A FORUM. Do you know what that mean? Well let me enlighten(inform, to free from ignorance) you. "FORUM-AN ASSEMBLY FOR THE DISCUSSION OF PUBLIC MATTERS." So please, get off my back about the negativity topics.

Peace. PNOTY#1 SP95

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[Salience]

Why do people want to return to the site, when they think it's bad? 1: They are titillated by such friction, 2: They really want to be down, but don't know how to act, 3: They are BORED out of their minds and can't find other MBs, or 4: they want to seem righteous in their indigation.

And any conversation about fake vs. real, paper/skater vs. woodtakers, starts off negatively. A good site with opinions on that is the The Temple of Blue. Beautiful Site.

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[BurningSands]

When intakes pledge a frat or soro, what makes them fake or real? Some feel that if yu don't get beat down then you are fake or paper. Who determines that? One kan not judge another because he/she didn't go through the same pledging process as the next. So I ask, are you fake/paper or real?

BurningSands, since you pose the question to the body why don't you give us some insight as to what makes a greek real or fake. I imagine that you are in a BGLO, and since you know BGLO's so well enlighten us. "Let's keep it real" as you say. By the way what frat/soror are you a member of?

[Serenity]

LOL, no organization,its members, or any other individual can "make" you say, do or act like something you're not. We all have something called.......free will. Get it together! And no, I was never a sweetheart.

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[Poplife]

Burning Sands:

Look at the forum and tell me who gets the most replies. I see all type of positive topics and not very many people are responding.

Maybe so. Not all the topics are positive, but I've also noticed that the intelligent questions with some amount of depth and insight get many responses. Just because you get many responses doesn't mean your topic if good. I noticed the flaming topic are the ones with the most bickering. The "Paper Vs. Real" topic is so tired and shallow. The Ladies of Alpha Kappa Alpha have a hot thread on Cita, a character on BET and I know that both members of Delta Sigma Theta AND Alpha Kappa Alpha discussed their feelings on seeing sorority related items sold to the highest bidder on ebay (to non-members). Why not post something like that? Questions about which fraternity and sorority is better, paper and pledging, and animal symbols seem like topics that people who don't know the real meaning of being a member of a BGLO post. There is so much more to be said and discussed.

"MAXIE" you say post positive topics, what I post is positive.

No topic that creates tension in the forum is a positive topic.

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[BurningSands]

I'm really getting fed up with all of the kriticism. Did you all read my last message or you all just want to start some shit. I apologized several times. This is a forum. Apparently you all like the topics, stop hating. As for what frat I belong too....Yes, KAPPA ALPHA PSI INC..."PHI NU PI"....Asia2000, I agree with you.. LOL must be a reject. Maxie must be a Kappa groupy or something. Look for the last time "I APOLOGIZE IF I HAVE OFFENDED ANYONE IN HERE."

[Ghostface-Killah]

Burningsands: I won't even take the time to say this or the other thing about your question- I am just going to attempt to answer it.
there is a difference between pledging, being paper, and signing your way into an org. I say you MUST have some kind of process, challenges to prove, not to others, but to yourself that you can overcome certain difficulties- For the most part, it is all a mind game in which you are to prove how far you would go fo you line bro/sis.
this has created crazy conflict between org. and within members of the same org. the sad thing abou it is that while WE ALL ARE TOLD TO bring in new members through MIP, many older heads and some national officials show no love when they know you did not come in the right way-
I believe pledging is one of a kind experience- There is nothing you can compare to it- It is creatded to take you back to your roots, in a time when you and I would not speak unless spoken to, a time where the unity that led all our founders to create these org. was crucial for the survival of the struggling population. Now, not all of us get to pick the way in wich we are brougth in- I know of people who did not have what I call a process, yet, the way they carry themselves and their org. forces you to give them crazy love and respect. I never wanted to be anything other than what I am, so the way other fellow greeks bring in their members does not concern me. If I had a vote on it, I would vote for them to have a more challenging process than simply taking a test to know how much history you know and become a member as you sign. Again, to each its own- But I am not going to deny that I have made my harh comments here and there- I am honest, so I speak as I feel. I am not going to come here and say thing I know you all want to hear. If I speak my mind and i am wrong as it has happened before, maybe I could be lucky enough to have someone correct me. Hey- youlive, you learn.
hope this helped you.
peace.

[Ghostface-Killah]

Hey!!! As far as BurningSands posting negative topics, At least he is not making up things- These are topics that do affect us all. Now, as DiscogoGoddes said, why do you keep coming back? i come here to see what I can learn from all of you- I have learned to be more carefull of the way I say certain things- I have learned to IGNORE NEGATIVE remarks about my org. and those I like, and most important yet, I have learned that being greek does not mean you have a perfect family. those haveing second thoughts about becoming one of us, DAMN BE THANKFUL FOR THAT TOO!!!!!!!!but... Do not judge the whole org. based on a few member's actions.