Alpha Phi Omega and Alpha Delta

[RedRover]

Today, I was on the campus of Duquesne University, where I picked up of a copy of the student newspaper. I read a story that the Pi Chi chapter of Alpha Phi Omega, one of the few remaining all-male chapters, was ending its ties with the national organization and was joining with other all-male A-Phi-O chapters to form a new social fraternity, Alpha Delta. The article went on to say that former APO chapters at Drexel and the University of Maine were also joining to form Alpha Delta.

Unfortunately, the article didn't say if the national APO organization was going to re-charter another chapter at Duquesne, this time a coed chapter. Nor was anything mentioned about the status of current APO members who wanted to remain in the organization or about the status of alumni.

Does anyone have any details. I was just wonderin'. Thanking you in advance

[DreamfulSpirit]

You might have to go and post this in the APO forum...those there will might be able to give you some more information.

[Senusret I]

http://media.www.theduquesneduke.com...-3415109.shtml

That's the article.

I knew about Alpha Delta at Maine, but not the other places.

Wouldn't be the first time that people who truly didn't have the fraternity in their hearts left it. *shrug* oh well

Also, the article is pretty poorly researched. There are several key facts about the fraternity and the situation which are left out (like founding date).

[KAPital PHINUst]

Considering that a promise was made in '76 that these chapters could stay all male, then not only was that promise reneged, but the brothers from these chapters are insulted and marginalized via insinuations that they somehow are "male chauvinist pigs" for remaining all male, after staying continuously active for 41/42/60 years, to say that these brothers truly didn't have the fraternity in their hearts is not only offensive, it adds another insult to a series of insults and injuries.

Taking all this (as well as other factors) into account, while on the one hand it is somewhat sad to see them go, OTOH I applaud their decision and wish them all the best in their new fraternity. IMHO, given the solid reputations of these former chapters on their respective campuses, I don't think a co-ed APO chapter would exist or last longer than a few years on any of these campuses.

[RedRover]

When I attended Duquesne, I knew a number of A-Phi-Os. From what they -- and others APOs at other colleges -- tell me, the Duquesne chapter acted an awful lot like a traditional social fraternity.

I know of a couple of men who didn't get bids from the chapter because an active brother blackballed them. These men were quality guys who were active in other organizations.

[KAPital PHINUst]

Originally Posted by RedRover

When I attended Duquesne, I knew a number of A-Phi-Os. From what they -- and others APOs at other colleges -- tell me, the Duquesne chapter acted an awful lot like a traditional social fraternity.

I know of a couple of men who didn't get bids from the chapter because an active brother blackballed them. These men were quality guys who were active in other organizations.

(at bolded). Compared to the service club mentality prevalent at most APO chapters, this is actually a very good thing and there is nothing at all disgraceful about acting like a traditional social fraternity, because that is what we are, a FRATERNITY!!!. Personally, I wish I saw more of this in APO in general.

Much love to the former Pi Chi!!

[blueGBI]

Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst

Considering that a promise was made in '76 that these chapters could stay all male, then not only was that promise reneged, but the brothers from these chapters are insulted and marginalized via insinuations that they somehow are "male chauvinist pigs" for remaining all male, after staying continuously active for 41/42/60 years, to say that these brothers truly didn't have the fraternity in their hearts is not only offensive, it adds another insult to a series of insults and injuries.

Taking all this (as well as other factors) into account, while on the one hand it is somewhat sad to see them go, OTOH I applaud their decision and wish them all the best in their new fraternity. IMHO, given the solid reputations of these former chapters on their respective campuses, I don't think a co-ed APO chapter would exist or last longer than a few years on any of these campuses.

[KAPital PHINUst]

Originally Posted by blueGBI

You can roll your eyes all you want to, but unlike the political correctness APO is known for, this is real talk! Granted, APOs co-ed constituency got its wish, but only time will tell if their victory proved to be substantive or if it was just a hollow victory that only served to spite the all male chapters in an egocentric attempt to make a point.

[justabostongirl]

Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst

(at bolded). Compared to the service club mentality prevalent at most APO chapters, this is actually a very good thing and there is nothing at all disgraceful about acting like a traditional social fraternity, because that is what we are, a FRATERNITY!!!. Personally, I wish I saw more of this in APO in general.

Much love to the former Pi Chi!!

The chapter at UMaine acted very much the same way. I have friends that were in APO and made the transition to Alpha Delta, and it was a very difficult decision for them, and they really did consider both options before deciding to become Alpha Delta. This move also required a great deal of work for them, as they had to rewrite their by-laws, have student government vote to accept them as a student organization, and many other tasks that they simply didn't talk about (ritual, etc). I respected them for this decision, as I can't imagine how hard it must have been to decide to break from their nationals, and I respect them for standing up for what they thought was right.

[DEVODUDE]

RedRover: the Pi Chi chapter of Alpha Phi Omega, one of the few remaining all-male chapters, was ending its ties with the national organization and was joining with other all-male A-Phi-O chapters to form a new social fraternity, Alpha Delta. The article went on to say that former APO chapters at Drexel and the University of Maine were also joining to form Alpha Delta.

These guys may not know that there is already an Alpha Delta fraternity founded in 1912 currently in operation at Washburn University. Here is their website:

www.alphadelta.org


ZBT:"Inspiring Today's College Men To Become Leaders Of Tomorrow."

[KAPital PHINUst]

Originally Posted by DEVODUDE

RedRover: the Pi Chi chapter of Alpha Phi Omega, one of the few remaining all-male chapters, was ending its ties with the national organization and was joining with other all-male A-Phi-O chapters to form a new social fraternity, Alpha Delta. The article went on to say that former APO chapters at Drexel and the University of Maine were also joining to form Alpha Delta.

These guys may not know that there is already an Alpha Delta fraternity founded in 1912 currently in operation at Washburn University. Here is their website:

www.alphadelta.org


ZBT:"Inspiring Today's College Men To Become Leaders Of Tomorrow."

That itself is not an issue. The real issue is whether or not the Washburn Alpha Delta is an incorporated entity and if the new Alpha Delta plans to incorporate. From what I can gather from the website, the Washburn Alpha Delta chapter appears to be a local fraternity. Usually locals aren't incorporated entities, but this may well be an exception.

In any event, this all will come out in the wash.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by RedRover

When I attended Duquesne, I knew a number of A-Phi-Os. From what they -- and others APOs at other colleges -- tell me, the Duquesne chapter acted an awful lot like a traditional social fraternity.

I know of a couple of men who didn't get bids from the chapter because an active brother blackballed them. These men were quality guys who were active in other organizations.

If they wanted to form a traditional social fraternity, then they should have, and used those practices there.

Blackballing rushees has no place in APO. Anyone who wants to pursue membership should be given the opportunity; however, not everyone will be successful in that pursuit.

[KAPital PHINUst]

Originally Posted by 33girl

If they wanted to form a traditional social fraternity, then they should have, and used those practices there.

Blackballing rushees has no place in APO. Anyone who wants to pursue membership should be given the opportunity; however, not everyone will be successful in that pursuit.

How do you know such "traditional social fraternity" practices didn't stem from the chapters' charter founders?

We'll have to mutually disagree on the blackballing part, but then again a Vike will blackball an applicant in a heartbeat if the applicant doesn't come correct, consequences be damned.