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Old 11-16-2005, 11:56 PM
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Carroll: "It was a gigantic misunderstanding"

Carroll student denies hazing

Passer-by reports man held in trunk

By REID J. EPSTEIN
repstein@journalsentinel.com

Posted: Nov. 14, 2005

Waukesha - When a man with a hood tied over his head was led out the back hatch of a car and walked to the Fox River bank just before midnight, it might have looked like a mob hit in progress.


It certainly did to a passer-by, who called Waukesha police to report that a hooded man with bound arms was being pulled from the trunk of a car and led to the river at a boat launch, Waukesha Police Capt. Mike Babe said Monday.

According to Babe, the passer-by saw the five men drive arrive at the Fox River boat landing near Les Paul Parkway about 11:40 p.m. Saturday. Babe said the witness saw men pull a man who had a covered head and bound wrists from the trunk of their car, then walk the bound man to the river's edge and return without him.

But before investigators searched the river, they found five men, all members or alumni of Carroll College's Delta Rho Upsilon fraternity.

No one had been tossed in the river Sopranos-style. But Babe said the men forced the hooded man to do push-ups and sit-ups at the river's edge.

One of the men, Peter Seroogy, 20, said Monday that the incident was not hazing, and that the men did nothing wrong.

"It was a gigantic misunderstanding," said Seroogy, who is the editor of Carroll's student newspaper, The New Perspective, and is the fraternity's rush chairman.

Seroogy said the incident was a prank, and that the five men were "just talking" near the river.

He declined to say why they were near the river or why one man was hooded.

Along with Seroogy, Brian Dornbos, 21, Joshua Dettman, 22, Jesse Pilachowski, 26, and Robert Schlicht, 22, were issued $162 disorderly conduct citations, Babe said. Dettman is the fraternity's president, and Pilachowski and Schlicht are alumni, Seroogy said. Dornbos is an active fraternity member, Seroogy said.

Seroogy said the Saturday night incident is unrelated to the fraternity's Founder's Day event, which took place earlier Saturday to mark the organization's anniversary. He also said that no one had his hands bound.
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Old 11-17-2005, 12:20 AM
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sounds a little strange to me....
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Old 11-17-2005, 12:52 AM
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I'd call the cops too.

Real smart, guys.
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Old 11-17-2005, 10:50 AM
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How can this not be hazing?

It looks like a duck and smells like one, too...

These guys are nuts.
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Old 11-17-2005, 10:51 AM
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Put a hood over a guy's head, bind his hands, throw him in a trunk, take him to the river, make him do sit ups and push ups with the hood on...hazing? What hazing? There's no hazing here officer. It's all just a big misunderstanding. He wanted us to do that to him.

Yeah, I doubt Nationals, the University or a jury would buy that one!
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Old 11-17-2005, 11:57 AM
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This is a local fraternity. They have issues. I believe they have lost their house.

http://www.deltarhoupsilon.org/

Their website, for those interested.
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Old 11-17-2005, 03:55 PM
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It they are all members, who was getting hazed?

What did they do to merit "disorderly conduct?"

It's strange, but that is not a crime yet.

Bring out the lawyers.
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Old 11-17-2005, 04:08 PM
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Question: If they happened to all be members of the basketball team or soccer team instead of a fraternity, would they have called this hazing or just hosring around???
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Old 11-18-2005, 12:34 AM
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Question: If they happened to all be members of the basketball team or soccer team instead of a fraternity, would they have called this hazing or just hosring around???
Hell, I'd just call it simple assault.
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Old 11-18-2005, 03:30 AM
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However the story was written in a STUPID way. Cause Waukesha (where ever that is) is a hotbed of mob activity.

The story would have had more punch without trying to make it sound bigger than it was.

I do think it was hazing tho...

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Old 11-18-2005, 10:14 AM
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However the story was written in a STUPID way. Cause Waukesha (where ever the fuck that is) is a hotbed of mob activity.

The story would have had more punch without trying to make it sound bigger than it was.

I do think it was hazing tho...
Waukesha is a suburb of Milwaukee (Wisconsin). Not in the best of shape, or it wasn't when I visted Carroll last. I know Carroll has had some problems the last few years. There have also been lots of stories about the problems that their Greek systems has had.

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Old 11-18-2005, 10:29 AM
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However the story was written in a STUPID way. Cause Waukesha (where ever that is) is a hotbed of mob activity.
I believe it's a suburb just West of Milwaukee.
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Old 11-18-2005, 10:47 AM
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I believe it's a suburb just West of Milwaukee.
This is correct. It's one of the larger suburbs.
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Old 11-18-2005, 10:57 AM
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This is correct. It's one of the larger suburbs.
Actually, I did know that. We once looked at some new housing there when I was working for WTMJ-TV.
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