Private vs. Public property question

[CUGreekgirl]

So a group of students at my school are planning to boycott my favorite bar.

My question is: Aren't bars considered private property and allowed to enforce whatever dress code they please and have restricted entry as long as they are not doing it on the basis of race?

Anyway, here is the posting about the boycott. I personally think they are being ridiculous, but then I guess I'm biased because I spend at least 2 nights a week in the bar. Its my favorite!

ATTENTION ALL GSU STUDENTS AND FACULTY. WE WILL BE COMING TOGETHER TOMORROW EVENING IN PROTEST AGAINST THE WOODEN NICKEL. IN ORDER TO DO THAT WE MUST STOP THERE BUSINESS. On Tuesday September 20th, concerned students and faculty were invited to a city council meeting to address underage drinking at a local establishment. He basically didn't care This establishment is already none for using an unrealistic "logo" dress code and fictitious "v.i.p" list to discriminate against those allowed to enter. Now is the time to take action and we want to be in his face and on his mind until this changes. We want to pressure all the bars and clubs surrounding his business as well to force them to support us. If they realize that they are losing business based on the councilmans decisions they in turn will be forced pressure him as well. MONEY is the bottom line and when they start to lose that they have to change to survive. Please come out and support our community.
The plan is basically this; there are 145 parking spots. We need to legally park in all of them. Please come dressed in professional attire. This is for men and women alike. The point is not however to get in to these establishments. The point is to keep the lines so long and the lot so full that they lose business and do not profit from the evening.

If you have any questions please ask, I know the post about the boycott is a little unclear if you aren't from around here.

[valkyrie]

The person who wrote this is in COLLEGE? Holy crap. He or she really needs to spend more time learning grammar and writing skills than attempting to organize a stupid boycott.

[CUGreekgirl]

The person who wrote this is in COLLEGE? Holy crap. He or she really needs to spend more time learning grammar and writing skills than attempting to organize a stupid boycott.

Lol, yep. I sent her a message saying pretty much the same thing.

[James]

You want college students, the majorty of which are underage, to boycott a place that will serve underage people? Are you insane?

Also, who is this wierdo calling for the boycott? She doesn't want underage college students to drink in bars? Just in their apartments? :P

[copacabana]

That is REALLY poorly written and not very thought-out, if I do say so myself.

I obviously don't know any background about the bar, but it seems to me that if they wanted to make a VIP list like a nightclub or a nice restaurant does, it should be totally fine. And if they're trying to rat out the bar for serving alcohol to minors, shouldn't they call the cops instead of a city council representitive on it?

[KSigkid]

Originally posted by valkyrie
The person who wrote this is in COLLEGE? Holy crap. He or she really needs to spend more time learning grammar and writing skills than attempting to organize a stupid boycott.

I've found from GC that there are a few college students and graduates who have no idea how to write a complete sentence.

[MysticCat]

Originally posted by CUGreekgirl
I know the post about the boycott is a little unclear if you aren't from around here.

By "around here," do you mean somewhere where English is spoken? Seriously, whoever wrote this has more necessary things to do than organize this "boycot."

BTW, this technically doesn't sound like a boycot. That would simply mean not patronizing the bar and encouraging others to do this same. This sounds more like the automotive equivalent of a sit in -- a "park in," if you will. If those 145 parking spaces are private property rather than public parking, that, in turn, is trespassing.

[AOIIBrandi]

I know the bar and the owner. I'm not sure I agree about why they are boycotting, but I have been boycotting his establishments since I went to the school there. The writer of the e-mail while not quite eloquent did hit the nail on the head - "MONEY is the bottom line". The owner is one of my husbands fraternity brothers and trust me when I tell you none of them like him. He acts like he is doing someone a favor and then screws them over.

*sorry about the rant, but he is the ONE person who just really gets under my skin

[CUGreekgirl]

I obviously don't know any background about the bar, but it seems to me that if they wanted to make a VIP list like a nightclub or a nice restaurant does, it should be totally fine. And if they're trying to rat out the bar for serving alcohol to minors, shouldn't they call the cops instead of a city council representitive on it?

They are trying to make the boycot/sit in seem as if it is about underaged drinking (which is illegal), when in reality they are upset over the VIP list and dress code (which isn't illegal).

The cops are at the bar almost every week anyway patroling the parking lot and recently they have been inside checking for fake IDs and underage drinking.

The reason this particular group is upset about the dress code is because one of the rules is "no logo clothing". The majority of predominately African American brands (FUBU, Ecko, Sean John) have huge brand names or logos all over them. An Abercrombie Polo with a small emblem on the chest is fine to wear in, but I have seen people (white) turned away for having a shirt that has ABERCROMBIE written across the front.

As far as the VIP list goes, as far as I have seen (and I was in the bar 2 nights a week, every week this summer), the VIP list is only used on Wednesday nights when girls get free cover and free drinks until 11:00 (when guys are let into the bar). In order to be on the list you must be a customer who comes regularly on other nights of the week. Why should they let in girls who only come for the free drinks and leave to go to another bar at 11:00 and they don't support the bar any other night of the week? The VIP list seems fair to me.

By "around here," do you mean somewhere where English is spoken? Seriously, whoever wrote this has more necessary things to do than organize this "boycot."

lol, true- But I really just meant there is some confusing stuff in the post- for example the "He" she keeps referring to is the owner of the bar and a city councilman.

[CUGreekgirl]

I know the bar and the owner. I'm not sure I agree about why they are boycotting, but I have been boycotting his establishments since I went to the school there. The writer of the e-mail while not quite eloquent did hit the nail on the head - "MONEY is the bottom line". The owner is one of my husbands fraternity brothers and trust me when I tell you none of them like him. He acts like he is doing someone a favor and then screws them over.

You must be talking about Ace. Thankfully I know other KA's or I wouldn't like the fraternity very much based on what I have seen from Ace. However, he has little to do with the bar now. One of the Legends owners co-owns the Nikel with Ace and he is the one pretty much in charge and running things (PM me if you would like to know who, I'm sure you probably know him). The co-owner is also a city council man and he is the one that is having to deal with everything. Who knows where Ace is in all this mess.

[AOIIBrandi]

I'm talking about the other one, not Ace. I will PM you.

[33girl]

Originally posted by CUGreekgirl
The reason this particular group is upset about the dress code is because one of the rules is "no logo clothing". The majority of predominately African American brands (FUBU, Ecko, Sean John) have huge brand names or logos all over them. An Abercrombie Polo with a small emblem on the chest is fine to wear in, but I have seen people (white) turned away for having a shirt that has ABERCROMBIE written across the front.

I have to give them a thumbs up for this.

There are way too many clubs around here who say no athletic gear, no baggy jeans etc but if a girl or white guy comes in wearing sneakers (athletic gear) it's fine. I commend this owner for applying the policy across the board.

The VIP list doesn't sound any different than having a Service Industry Night or a college ID night. Those are perfectly legal, again, if they're applied across the board.

[CUGreekgirl]

Brandi, you have a response to your PM.