black victims of usa

[QAZ]

Black people loot, white people find






The Associated Press caption accompanying the image with a black person says he's just finished "looting" a grocery store. The AFP/Getty Images caption describes lighter skinned people "finding" bread and soda from a grocery store. No stores are open to sell these goods.



New Orleans, Sept. 1, 2005 - It's criminal. From what you're hearing, the people trapped in New Orleans are nothing but looters. We're told we should be more "neighborly." But nobody talked about being neighborly until after the people who could afford to leave … left


There are gangs of white vigilantes near here riding around in pickup trucks, all of them armed, and any young Black they see who they figure doesn't belong in their community, they shoot him.


But nobody cares. They're just lawless looters ... dangerous


The hurricane hit at the end of the month, the time when poor people are most vulnerable. Food stamps don't buy enough but for about three weeks of the month, and by the end of the month everyone runs out. Now they have no way to get their food stamps or any money, so they just have to take what they can to survive.


Every day countless volunteers are trying to help, but they're turned back. Almost all the rescue that's been done has been done by volunteers anyway.


here is the real truth, they were watching our in need of help Americans die and suffer because they are afraid of us African Americans and other poor races & it make me mad because these scum just are sitting around while people die and it is sick.


they can't even take care of our affairs here in America, how are they going to help other country's when this place is a hell hole. It made me sick to see Veterans dying and they fault for this country like my dad, & my step brother is now fighting in Iraq & even he called me & said that he feels ashamed & appalled at what he has saw this week from our fake country

[Kevin]

From Snopes.com

"Origins: Looting is an unfortunate and largely inevitable result of large-scale disasters. Many property owners have to evacuate their homes and businesses ahead of the coming disaster (or flee the area in its aftermath) without leaving behind anyone to protect their property, and law enforcement and other emergency services are generally so overwhelmed dealing with life-and-death issues that they can't spare the manpower to protect private property. People who are caught unprepared (or remain in the disaster area for other reasons) often have to shift into survival mode and take whatever supplies they can get wherever they can find them, and there are always a few who will take advantage of confusion and chaos to make off with other people's property for their own enrichment.

The onslaught of Hurricane Katrina in the Gulf Coast in late August 2005 brought the phenomenon of looting into the national spotlight once again, including the two new service photographs shown above, both of which were carried by Yahoo! News and other Internet news outlets and showed persons wading through chest-deep water in the New Orleans area with supplies taken from grocery stores. Many viewers noticed the seeming disparity of the darker-skinned subject's being described in the accompanying caption as "looting a grocery store," while the lighter-skinned subjects were described as "finding bread and soda from a local grocery store." Are these captions evidence of a subtle (or overt) racial prejudice in the news media?

It's difficult to draw any substantiated conclusions from these photographs' captions. Although they were both carried by many news outlets, they were taken by two different photographers and came from two different services, Associated Press (AP) and Getty Images via Agence France-Presse (AFP). These services may have different stylistic standards for how they caption photographs, or the dissimilar wordings may have been due to nothing more than the preferences of different photographers and editors, or the difference might be the coincidental result of a desire to avoid repetitive wording (similar photographs from the same news services variously describe the depicted actions as "looting," "raiding," "taking," "finding," and "making off"). The viewer also isn't privy to the contexts in which the photographs were taken — it's possible that in one case the photographer actually saw his subject exiting an unattended grocery store with an armful of goods, while in the other case the photographer came upon his subjects with supplies in hand and could only make assumptions about how they obtained them.

A Salon article on the photographs by Aaron Kinney suggests the captions were a result of a combination of contexual and stylistic differences:
Jack Stokes, AP's director of media relations, confirmed today that [photographer Dave] Martin says he witnessed the people in his images looting a grocery store. "He saw the person go into the shop and take the goods," Stokes said, "and that's why he wrote 'looting' in the caption."

Regarding the AFP/Getty "finding" photo by [photographer Chris] Graythen, Getty spokeswoman Bridget Russel said, "This is obviously a big tragedy down there, so we're being careful with how we credit these photos." Russel said that Graythen had discussed the image in question with his editor and that if Graythen didn't witness the two people in the image in the act of looting, then he couldn't say they were looting.
The photographer who took the Getty/AFP picture, Chris Graythen, also posted the reasons behind his caption:
I wrote the caption about the two people who 'found' the items. I believed in my opinion, that they did simply find them, and not 'looted' them in the definition of the word. The people were swimming in chest deep water, and there were other people in the water, both white and black. I looked for the best picture. there were a million items floating in the water — we were right near a grocery store that had 5+ feet of water in it. it had no doors. the water was moving, and the stuff was floating away. These people were not ducking into a store and busting down windows to get electronics. They picked up bread and cokes that were floating in the water. They would have floated away anyhow.
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[Kevin]

You're drastically overstating your case.

I think that unless you rode to school on the short bus, at this point, you realize the reality that the poor folks in NO were faced with. They were stuck there with no cars, no other means of transportation, essentially left to fend for themselves.

Whose fault is that? I think the answer to that is up for grabs. My feeling is that FEMA wasn't built to be a first responder, and that the local community should have had a plan. But that's beside the point right now.

The fact is that poor folks in NO are disproportionately black. That means there were/are a disproportionate amount of black faces in refugee shelters, etc.

As to the article's reasons, it's an interesting comparison of TWO DIFFERENT NEWS AGENCIES, but does it indicate some vast conspiracy by the United States of AmeriKKKa? Absolutely not.

[hoosier]

Originally posted by QAZ


There are gangs of white vigilantes near here riding around in pickup trucks, all of them armed, and any young Black they see who they figure doesn't belong in their community, they shoot him.

Any documentation of this?

Was George Bush driving the truck? Or doing the shooting?

NO was a lawless place (homicide rate double Atlanta's, a similar sized city with minorities in control) with a black dem mayor, and a century of dem control.

There's plenty blame to go around in this disaster, but a big share has to go to the local people in charge.

[Lindz928]

I just thought I would mention that I find it interesting that someone felt the need to make up a user name simply to post this.

Also, I do think that there is a lot of blame to go around here. I personally think the biggest thing that Bush did wrong was to make Brown the head of FEMA. Personal opinion.

[33girl]

Originally posted by QAZ
The hurricane hit at the end of the month, the time when poor people are most vulnerable. Food stamps don't buy enough but for about three weeks of the month, and by the end of the month everyone runs out.

Well don't you know Bush planned it that way?? DUH!!!

for the true short bus riders, the above is sarcasm.

[BigCityStripper]

Where are the Search button Nazis? Surely this is within their domain.

[KillarneyRose]

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[DeltAlum]

Originally posted by KillarneyRose
Know what else, QAZ? Oswald was hired by the Mafia to kill JFK, the lunar landing was a hoax and, yes, pro wrestling is real!

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[PM_Mama00]

Dude, the finger in the chili caused the hurricane that hurt your people. You should be blaming the chili.

[damasa]

Originally posted by KillarneyRose
pro wrestling is real!

Wrestling isn't real?

sniffles

[DeltAlum]

"Humor" from a bulletin board elsewhere on the web:

"Laura's Reaction: First Lady Laura Bush is responding angrily to claims that her husband doesn't care about black people. As the person who knows President Bush the best, she insists he doesn't care about white people either."