International obsververs for election

[IowaStatePhiPsi]

International team to monitor presidential election
Observers will be part of OSCE's human rights office
From David de Sola
CNN

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A team of international observers will monitor the presidential election in November, according to the U.S. State Department.

The Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe was invited to monitor the election by the State Department. The observers will come from the OSCE's Office for Democratic Institutions and Human Rights.

It will be the first time such a team has been present for a U.S. presidential election.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/...ers/index.html

[Kevin]

Good. We'll show them how an election should be run.

Many countries around the world were amazed how the US didn't have a civil war 4 years ago.

[AlphaSigOU]

Originally posted by ktsnake
Good. We'll show them how an election should be run.

Many countries around the world were amazed how the US didn't have a civil war 4 years ago.

We already had our requisite insurrection over 135 years ago! Though we were fast approaching a slippery slope in 1968 that would have plunged lesser countries into all-out war.

[Love_Spell_6]

I guess this is a good thing. THis way whoever wins..we won't have to hear 4 years of Re-defeat Kerry or Bush! (especially when folks know Bush won the election by all re-counts ) YEP I had to add that

[AKA_Monet]

Originally posted by ktsnake
Many countries around the world were amazed how the US didn't have a civil war 4 years ago.

Nah, we just bring the war live and direct in their backyards with Survivor and American Idol carrying Daisy Cutters... Come to think of it, reality shows alone are enough to kill somebody...

[Kevin]

I do actually have a little problem with this. To allow international observers to make sure our election is fair, in my opinion violates U.S. soveriegnity. This latest move is some of the biggest crap. Are we going to have representatives from Syria and Iran here to make sure OUR elections are fair?

Whether we're 100% fair in all cases and 100% accurate in counting (Bush did win ALL of the recounts though) is probably up to be disputed. In my opinion, the question as to whether we are the most accurate and the most fair at these things in the entire world (or at least on par with our neighbors to the north ) is something that I don't think is open to dispute.

This is just another little whimper by the left (11 Democratic members of Congress if memory serves) about how they still think the election was "stolen".

[AlphaSigOU]

Originally posted by AKA_Monet
Nah, we just bring the war live and direct in their backyards with Survivor and American Idol carrying Daisy Cutters... Come to think of it, reality shows alone are enough to kill somebody...

Daisy cutters are so passe... What we need is some extra-strength extermination using MOAB (Mother of All Bombs... 15,000 pounds of daisy-cutting death and destruction!) ... failing that, a little B61 nuclear action!

Reality TV killed the sitcom...

[IowaStatePhiPsi]

Originally posted by AlphaSigOU
Daisy cutters are so passe... What we need is some extra-strength extermination using MOAB (Mother of All Bombs... 15,000 pounds of daisy-cutting death and destruction!) ... failing that, a little B61 nuclear action!

Reality TV killed the sitcom...

Daisy Cutters are 15,000lbs... MOABs are 19,000

[AlphaSigOU]

Originally posted by IowaStatePhiPsi
Daisy Cutters are 15,000lbs... MOABs are 19,000

Figgers I had my numbers wrong... now that's a HELL of a BANG!

[RACooper]

Originally posted by ktsnake
I do actually have a little problem with this. To allow international observers to make sure our election is fair, in my opinion violates U.S. soveriegnity. This latest move is some of the biggest crap. Are we going to have representatives from Syria and Iran here to make sure OUR elections are fair?

Whether we're 100% fair in all cases and 100% accurate in counting (Bush did win ALL of the recounts though) is probably up to be disputed. In my opinion, the question as to whether we are the most accurate and the most fair at these things in the entire world (or at least on par with our neighbors to the north ) is something that I don't think is open to dispute.

This is just another little whimper by the left (11 Democratic members of Congress if memory serves) about how they still think the election was "stolen".

Aaaah... really who cares?

We have had observers here for decades (invited), and really it doesn't even get coverage. Yes some are there to make sure things go down "fair" but others are there to learn, so as to bring back to their country - or to aid in determining the fairness of other elections. So at worst they'll pick-up some tips for when monitoring other elections elsewhere

[AKA_Monet]

Originally posted by ktsnake
I do actually have a little problem with this. To allow international observers to make sure our election is fair, in my opinion violates U.S. soveriegnity. This latest move is some of the biggest crap. Are we going to have representatives from Syria and Iran here to make sure OUR elections are fair?

Whether we're 100% fair in all cases and 100% accurate in counting (Bush did win ALL of the recounts though) is probably up to be disputed. In my opinion, the question as to whether we are the most accurate and the most fair at these things in the entire world (or at least on par with our neighbors to the north ) is something that I don't think is open to dispute.

This is just another little whimper by the left (11 Democratic members of Congress if memory serves) about how they still think the election was "stolen".

The issue with some folks in the US are that citizen's votes were NOT counted at all in Florida in 2000. I am not talking about the messed up voting cards where 2 persons were selected for president or the undercounted cards where there was no one selected for president. I am talking about properly casted ballots that were not even counted in the 2000 Florida election.

Reminiscient of the old days of votes falling off the turnip truck...

Either way, I think this year, everybody is gonna vote in this coming election. Which makes this interesting to see international observers... I have my conspiracy theories brewing in my head about this fact, but I will see what happens as things unfold and develop...

However, I do agree with William Safire's assessment of the upcoming election for president, from the "Meet the Press" interview, that this election will not be a close election it will go one way, all the way and most likely for Bush...

[Kevin]

Originally posted by AKA_Monet
The issue with some folks in the US are that citizen's votes were NOT counted at all in Florida in 2000. I am not talking about the messed up voting cards where 2 persons were selected for president or the undercounted cards where there was no one selected for president. I am talking about properly casted ballots that were not even counted in the 2000 Florida election.

Reminiscient of the old days of votes falling off the turnip truck...

Either way, I think this year, everybody is gonna vote in this coming election. Which makes this interesting to see international observers... I have my conspiracy theories brewing in my head about this fact, but I will see what happens as things unfold and develop...

However, I do agree with William Safire's assessment of the upcoming election for president, from the "Meet the Press" interview, that this election will not be a close election it will go one way, all the way and most likely for Bush...

If one can't understand the ballot to vote (you know, the part where it says "check here to vote for X" or they just speed through it and don't really read the instructions, I don't think they're taking their duty seriously and really shouldn't be counted.

Conspiracy theories are just that THEORIES. If they were facts, they'd be called something else. To this day, there are no *confirmed* stories of irregularities in Florida. Just a movement of misinformation that tries to convince folks that Al Gore should have been the President.

Regardless of what you think about the outcome, the wheels of democracy turned and the law prevailed over everything else. Power changed hands peacefully which is something we take for granted here in the US.

[The1calledTKE]

Maybe they should stick them all in Florida then we should be ok. lol

[Kevin]

Originally posted by The1calledTKE
Maybe they should stick them all in Florida then we should be ok. lol

Nah, Florida should just have to sit this one out

[IowaStatePhiPsi]

Originally posted by ktsnake
Conspiracy theories are just that THEORIES. If they were facts, they'd be called something else. To this day, there are no *confirmed* stories of irregularities in Florida. Just a movement of misinformation that tries to convince folks that Al Gore should have been the President.

http://www.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/...da.recount.01/

What's that? The Miami Herald concluded that the voting office in Florida engaged in systematic voter fraud that changed the result of the election?

Ironically, a tougher standard of counting only cleanly punched ballots advocated by many Republicans would have resulted in a Gore lead of just three votes, the newspaper reported.

The newspapers' review also discovered that canvassing boards in Palm Beach and Broward counties threw out hundreds of ballots that had marks that were no different from ballots deemed to be valid.

The papers concluded that Gore would be in the White House today if those ballots had been counted.