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12-18-2010, 05:46 PM
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Senate PASSES repeal of DADT
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The Senate vote was 65-31. The House had passed an identical version of the bill, 250-175, on Wednesday.
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Sen. John McCain, Obama's Republican rival in 2008, led the opposition. The Arizona Republican acknowledged he didn't have the votes to stop the bill and he blamed elite liberals with no military experience for pushing their social agenda on troops during wartime.
"They will do what is asked of them,'' McCain said of service members. "But don't think there won't be a great cost.''
In the end, six Republican senators broke with their party on the procedural vote to let the bill move ahead and swung behind repeal after a recent Pentagon study concluded the ban could be lifted without hurting the ability of troops to fight.
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Fuck you John McCain. Elite liberals as well as the majority of every branch of the military, right? Fuck you for flipflopping on this issue so much you're like a dying fish.
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Adm. Mike Mullen and Marine Gen. James Cartwright, the chairman and vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, respectively, have said the fear of disruption is overblown. They note the Pentagon's finding that 92 percent of troops who believe they have served with a gay person saw no effect on their units' morale or effectiveness. Among Marines in combat roles who said they have served alongside a gay person, 84 percent said there was no impact.
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All I have to say is ABOUT DAMN TIME.
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12-18-2010, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Drolefille
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Fuck you John McCain. Elite liberals as well as the majority of every branch of the military, right? Fuck you for flipflopping on this issue so much you're like a dying fish.
All I have to say is ABOUT DAMN TIME.
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Amen! I have the worst Senators ever.
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12-18-2010, 06:00 PM
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How would this cause "great cost" (as Senator McCain has said) to our military?
I'm not even asking to be funny, like I seriously want to know what some of this "great damage" would be?
Feel free to share. I am really curious.
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12-18-2010, 06:23 PM
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12-18-2010, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06
How would this cause "great cost" (as Senator McCain has said) to our military?
I'm not even asking to be funny, like I seriously want to know what some of this "great damage" would be?
Feel free to share. I am really curious.
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Mr. McCain - I'm feeling petty enough not to give him the honorific - has moved the goalposts so many times that I wouldn't be surprised if he thinks that soldiers will start stubbing their toes on the FABULOUS furniture that gays would obviously add to the barracks following the repeal.
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12-18-2010, 07:00 PM
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12-18-2010, 07:03 PM
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FINALLY! So happy  ust got home from work, this is the first thing I saw as I switched on my laptop and it made my day
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12-18-2010, 07:30 PM
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Finally! It's one big step out of the Dark Ages.
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12-18-2010, 07:38 PM
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LOL @ the gifs
But to echo everyone else: about damn time.
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12-18-2010, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06
How would this cause "great cost" (as Senator McCain has said) to our military?
I'm not even asking to be funny, like I seriously want to know what some of this "great damage" would be?
Feel free to share. I am really curious.
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The "great damage" I can see are the homophobes who would assault the gays. There were A LOT of these close-minded folks when I served. We knew who the gay people were but they weren't flamboyant or in our faces about it. And because of DADT, those folks never actually "confirmed" that they were.
I'm glad this got repealed, but I hope the military is ready to punish the close-minded jerks who may try attack the gays.
Also, to play devils advocate, another "great damage" would be the morale of being able to trust your fellow service members with your life. Though I personally don't see any difference if they are serving openly because they are the same people as before, but you do have to be able to trust your life in the hands of those you work with.
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The "great damage" I can see are the homophobes who would assault the gays. There were A LOT of these close-minded folks when I served. We knew who the gay people were but they weren't flamboyant or in our faces about it. And because of DADT, those folks never actually "confirmed" that they were.
I'm glad this got repealed, but I hope the military is ready to punish the close-minded jerks who may try attack the gays.
Also, to play devils advocate, another "great damage" would be the morale of being able to trust your fellow service members with your life. Though I personally don't see any difference if they are serving openly because they are the same people as before, but you do have to be able to trust your life in the hands of those you work with.
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Sooo...you're saying gay service members can't trust the bigots in the military with their lives?
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12-18-2010, 09:28 PM
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Sooo...you're saying gay service members can't trust the bigots in the military with their lives?
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Sad isn't it?
In reality I do not think this will be a problem beyond a few isolated incidents. Hopefully those are handled appropriately by the command structure. But we have had a few isolated incidents over whether Obama's the legitimate Commander in Chief, so really, nothing would surprise me.
/the last asshat got sentenced.
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12-18-2010, 09:39 PM
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The only contribution I have to make is to say how totally awesome I think this gif is.
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12-18-2010, 09:55 PM
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One of my friends was kicked out a few years ago because they found out he was gay. I wanted to text him today how happy I was but I know its a sore subject for him.
So glad this is OVER.
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