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Old 04-27-2010, 02:58 PM
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Oklahoma passes newer strict abortion laws

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/28/us/28abortion.html?hp

The Oklahoma Legislature voted overwhelmingly Tuesday to override vetoes of two highly restrictive abortion measures, one making it a law that women undergo an ultrasound and listen to a detailed description of the fetus before having an abortion.

Though other states have passed similar measures forcing women to have ultrasounds, Oklahoma’s law goes further, requiring a doctor or technician to set up the monitor where the woman can see it and describe the heart, limbs and organs of the fetus. No exceptions are made for rape and incest victims.

The second measure passed into law Tuesday protects doctors from malpractice suits if they decide not to inform the parents of a unborn baby that the fetus has birth defects. The intent of the bill is to prevent parents from later suing doctors who withhold information to try to influence them against having an abortion.


WHATTTT! This is totally medically unethical! Physicians can't withhold this type of information from patients. What a tangled web we weave...
What if these defects could be repaired? What if the patient would need specialized care after birth? What if the parents would elect to keep the child but not spend thousands of dollars preparing a nursery that would never be used? How dare they take this type of decision out of the hands of the parents and dump it into the laps of physicians. Ohhh...but we can't be sued. Thanks.
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Old 04-27-2010, 03:47 PM
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And folks complain that Obama is a fascist. Lol
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Old 04-27-2010, 04:38 PM
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And folks complain that Obama is a fascist. Lol
It's only fascism if you don't agree.
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Old 04-27-2010, 04:45 PM
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It's only fascism if you don't agree.
Yep and that applies to every President.
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Old 04-27-2010, 04:46 PM
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That is terrible.
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Old 04-27-2010, 04:59 PM
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Though other states have passed similar measures forcing women to have ultrasounds, Oklahoma’s law goes further, requiring a doctor or technician to set up the monitor where the woman can see it and describe the heart, limbs and organs of the fetus. No exceptions are made for rape and incest victims.
So... what if the doctor/ultrasound technician is pro-abortion?
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Old 04-27-2010, 05:16 PM
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Sorry about this, folks. We should have this declared unconstitutional again in fairly short order. Sorry again for the side show.

-- Sincerely, Oklahoma.
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Old 04-27-2010, 05:43 PM
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Beyond wrong.
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Old 04-27-2010, 06:35 PM
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So what happens if a woman decides to have an abortion very early on in the pregnancy, as in before the limbs and organs are distinguishable?

As for the second piece of legislation...I hope those state legislators are ready to pass the hat, because there are going to be some more kids in state custody or on state assistance due to medical bills.

Seriously, do people (include politicians) even think about the consequences of their actions anymore? Repeat after me: For every action, there is an opposite and equal reaction!
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Old 04-27-2010, 06:43 PM
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So what happens if a woman decides to have an abortion very early on in the pregnancy, as in before the limbs and organs are distinguishable?

As for the second piece of legislation...I hope those state legislators are ready to pass the hat, because there are going to be some more kids in state custody or on state assistance due to medical bills.

Seriously, do people (include politicians) even think about the consequences of their actions anymore? Repeat after me: For every action, there is an opposite and equal reaction!
I'm fairly close to the Oklahoma legislature. Lots of friends work in and around that body. I'm less than a mile away from the state capitol building as I type this. I can tell you with certainty that most Oklahoma legislators are complete morons. It's embarrassing.
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Old 04-27-2010, 07:06 PM
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So what happens if a woman decides to have an abortion very early on in the pregnancy, as in before the limbs and organs are distinguishable?

As for the second piece of legislation...I hope those state legislators are ready to pass the hat, because there are going to be some more kids in state custody or on state assistance due to medical bills.

Seriously, do people (include politicians) even think about the consequences of their actions anymore? Repeat after me: For every action, there is an opposite and equal reaction!
I'll describe it for you...."Looks like a bean."
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Old 04-27-2010, 07:18 PM
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I'll describe it for you...."Looks like a bean."
Kidney? Lima?...Black?
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Old 04-27-2010, 07:29 PM
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Kidney? Lima?...Black?
Kinda gray since US in in grayscale so I can't give you a color
I'd say Kidney since it's already shaped like a body part!!
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Old 04-28-2010, 08:29 AM
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I'm fairly close to the Oklahoma legislature. Lots of friends work in and around that body. I'm less than a mile away from the state capitol building as I type this. I can tell you with certainty that most Oklahoma legislators are complete morons. It's embarrassing.
For whatever reason this made me laugh really hard.
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Old 04-28-2010, 09:24 AM
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The author of one of these was an heir in a probate case I worked on while in law school. Nice guy. Smart guy. Heard him on the radio this morning. Also a wannabe political hack.
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