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Originally posted by adduncan
Twisting my words wont make me change what I *actually* said.
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You were, at the least, excessively hypocritical in your earlier dealings with cashmoney, and MULTIPLE Catholics derided you for your insular thinking. Or were they all wrong, as well?
Here's a hint: parts of what cashmoney said were correct in spirit, if not detail. Why deny that the church has had problems? That's what you're doing by denying others the ability to comment on the actions of possibly the largest, most influential organization on the planet. It's a joke.
The passing of the Pope is a worldwide event - the position is amazingly influential, much more so than most world leaders. The gestures, statements, and edicts coming from the papacy have strong influence on the lives of most Americans, even non-Catholics. Look outside - the flags fly at half-mast, and rightly so.
John Paul II, while not necessarily 'liberal' as Americans would define the term, certainly did well to push positive and important action in the Church, and saw it through some rough times - I respect the man a great deal, he handled a massive position with grace and steadfastness to his religion, even if I disagree with many policies in specific. His passing is truly an event, and not just for you, duncan, but for everyone. The next Pope will have the same immense influence, and as such it is necessary, nay important, for even non-Catholics to pay attention. You can cut on Rudey all you want, but you're strawmanning (and as a teacher, you should know that you're doing it, and it's intellectually dishonest).
-RC
--again, I present for you: Galileo (forgiven in 1981, nihil obstat/imprimatur granted in 2004 if my memory serves . . . original findings in 1615, and everyone can discuss this)