[Kevin]

In my chapter, I think the few guys we've taken as upper classmen actually have missed out. I don't think they have as much opportunity to try running for an office or to take a real lead on anything due to the short time that they're active with the chapter. Also, as you get older, real world demands tend to take a toll on your activity in your chapter.

So yeah, I think they regret it. I would have had I waited.