[TKPhi]

Oops. I read "jonnycalgary" and thought "Chi Gamma"
Rick is a little far away to help. Never mind about all that.

The elder problem is a real one, and one of the reasons I took on this job is to improve elder involvement, both with the chapters and among themselves.

I have yet to talk to Jeff Price, who I am told is the elder Phi. What sort of elder activities do AM elders do? Do they have elder-only activities, or only with the actives?

The US Midwest and US Southern chapters have the same problem with geography. From MN, it's 4 hours to WI, 6 to UIC, 9 to IL and NB. But some do well despite it, so we know it can be done.

I really think it has more to do with how we present ourselves than anything else. In the LTIs now, we're trying to teach proven sales techniques. They not only give the actives a big leg up in their first jobs, but they cam be used right now in our rush activities.

I'll pass along the distance-learning idea. We may be able to come up with something.

TKPhi, TK