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Old 03-14-2005, 12:27 PM
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Cool Re: Re: KSigkid you are right!

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Originally posted by RACooper
While the rest of the posts in this thread have been insightful and intelligent... I suspect that it is posts like this that were at the root of Sensuret publically distancing himself from the GC Alpha Phi Alpha community.

The discussion was centring around the question of whether or not a personal agenda was behind any of the postings earlier - to which I would say no. Sunsuret posted on the forum looking for support because of the negative reactions he had recieved - but he found instead that his "Brothers" on this board where some of the haters...

To me this has shown a ironic reversal - specifically that some "people" on this site have chosen to use Alpha Phi Alpha to further their own agenda's of intolerance. They have been the ones publically and privately slamming Sunsuret for "betraying" or "destroying" the Brotherhood at the heart of Alpha Phi Alpha; and they have been the ones most vocally promoting their own agendas (as witnessed by PHAShriner/1906's posts)... so why are they not subject to the same level of scrutiny or discussion?

Look Mr. Cooper,

I'm going to try to explain this again--except I'm going to try to be as civil as I can.
1. EVERYONE, no matter how extensive or limited their experience, has an opinion; and it's okay to have a different one.
2. EVERY organization has it's stated purpose and rules governing membership and it's target market for members; yet we all must comply with federal rules on discrimination. Despite this reality, you know as well as I do that there are people you hope never become a member of your fraternity. We all have
undesireables we have to deal with.
3. The answer to the question of whether Senusret I used his membership to advance his own personal agenda is clear: yes he did; and he is not alone. Hell; every now and then people who are not ALPHAs come on our board selling stuff, trying to get us to attend an event, etc.
I think his sexuality became part of the discussion for several reasons: reasons like the content of his book and how Alpha Phi Alpha could be perceived of as a result of his presentation of us.

He may be a good guy, and I believe him to be so; but MY problem is the fact that my fraternity is FOR MEN, not for gay dudes. He knew this, and sought membership anyway. Brother PHAShriner/1906 mentioned the word "infiltration", and that's exactly what has happened to us. And MOST people posting to this thread seem to have more pity for this dude than RESPECT for our illustrious fraternity. I understand the value of being PC; but at the expense of being true to yourself and your fraternal beliefs?

I admit being more than rude to Senusret I; but he has not represented my fraternity on these boards and others the way A TRUE BROTHER would. He would introduce himself and say he is a member of ALPHA PHI ALPHA (as if that fact was like a ticket to be accepted amongst those on the board he would be chatting with), then proceed flashing his homosexuality as if he were celebrating a successful infiltration. I don't feel proud at all for some of my responses, but I really believe he deserved getting "publicly and privately slammed by his own brothers". THIS IS THE ALPHA PHI ALPHA FORUM, mainly for ALPHAS; where we discuss ALPHA BUSINESS with brothers. Yall know the rules. Respect is earned; not given. If you want it; give it.