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Old 01-21-2005, 04:53 PM
Rudey Rudey is offline
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Originally posted by Shortfuse
Which leads me to say that we shouldn't talk about "giving liberty to oppressed people of the world" when we're not ready to back that up 100 percent. All that freedom giving "chest-thumping" you heard from our government was only going to open a can of worms that hte US isn't ready to deal with as of yet.

So you're saying only Muslim governments are imposing thier will on their people? But I understand we're only talking about Muslim governments so I'll leave it at that.


So now why are we REALLY in Iraq?

As John Quincy Adams put it: "America does not go abroad in search of monsters to destroy.
No I'm not saying only Muslim governments impose their will on their people. In Venezuela, Chavez imposes his will on his people and I bet he's Catholic if anything.

But let me say 2 things:
1) I don't want to talk about Iraq here. There are 50,000 threads on Iraq and the war. If it's in a different context I am game, but I am tired of saying the same things and others saying the exact same things, you know?

2) This also isn't a thread about war solely.

Now that I've said those 2 things...

I do think war is the answer in many places. War is not desirable. I don't pleasure the thought of pain and death, neither ours nor theirs. But I think that it can help spur something.

If we are able to set up democracies like Afghanistan that really do give people a voice then, in time, freedom will prevail. I don't think Afghanistan is heaven but it damn sure is better than it was under the Taliban. And in time, the citizens will not use religion as a crutch and will build their societies.

I think the biggest thing for the world's countries to do is to pursue those who fund terrorism and these schools. Get these damn Saudis to stop funding hateful madrassas. If we can choke the money supply, I think we can stop terrorism.

-Rudey
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