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Originally posted by CasanovaAPQ
This fourm is amazing to me. to sit here and say we should change a toast song because we are losing "money" is ridiculous. people decide not to seek membership or leave the membership for several reasons. If someone does not want to be a memebr because of a toast song that they should seek membership somehwere else. Lets not forget our founding and why we were founded. let not forget frank reed hortons dream. we are co-ed now and yes some may argue that if he was around when we went co-ed he would od had a problem with that but all we can so is speculate. To me when you go as far as to change a reference to men that we should just change from fraternity to society. from the arguments presented on this forum why call APO a fraternity? Whats the point we are not a fraternity. we are a society really. co-ed chapter, women being called brother this is backward when you think about it and that alone can turn someone off. if you had a problem with the toast song then why did you pledge? Why are we called a fraternity when every aspect of a fraternity is being wiped out? What type of fraternity is mostly female? and what about brotherhood? why is APO trying to redefine the meaning of fraternity by changing all reference to the meaning. im fine with us beong co-ed and im fine with people wanting to improve us but we can not and should not try to cater to people by changing our tradtions. from last i heard APO is not having that much of a membership problem because of the toast song. Were having membership problem because most people dont understand the org. with forum like this its making us look bad. you dont see any other org arguin over changing there toast song. its something that is secrte in there org and they leave it the way it is. to me its not even a copyrighterd song so ifyou have an issue with it at your chapter then DONT SING IT. Your pledged a fraternity, not a society or a sorority. if you wanted to be a sister you should of pledged a sorority. I am a MAN of alpha phi omega. and changing it to true to doesnt make sense when you sing the song. Come on people let table this discussion just like they did at convention and move on to some other important talks.
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Whew, I am glad that I didn't have to write this response! But I agree with EVERYTHING IN THIS REPLY! THIS SHOULDN'T be DISCUSSED IN A PUBLIC FORUM! But I will say this, It almost saddens me to see APO do so much to accomodate potentials but do relatively nothing to accomodate current brothers as a whole. It seems that we are more about quantity versus quality! What is being done to encourage membership past your neo year or past undergrad or to increase male or minority membership? Relatively nothing! (There are some chapters that are so concerned about quantity that current actives do not participate because they do not feel that sense of brotherhood. Address those problems, why are brothers not as active as they should be or chapters becoming too large.) Instead we are focused on a song and we are ready to change something that is near and dear to CURRENT BROTHERS to appease some POTENTIALS!!! SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH THIS!!! Finally, if someone is willing to choose not to join because of a song, is that the type of brother you would want in an organization, ours in particular? I am pretty sure that there is something about every greek-lettered org that its members does not like, but then again, no group is perfect. You take the good with the bad! If it one is that miserable, simply do not take the oath!
Yes, APO IS A BUSINESS, BUT GUESS WHO FINANCES IT, Fraternity MEMBERS not POTENTIAL Members! The frat needs to be more concerned about membership retention and pleasing the members instead of accomodating to some aspirants.