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Old 01-05-2005, 11:21 AM
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Originally posted by DeltAlum
Who were never, to the best of my knowledge, tried and convicted as such. Who were allowed to return to their homes and families. Who were allowed to keep their side arms and animals.

If you want to bandy about the word "traitor," go back a few years to the founders of our country who rebelled against England. They were "traitors," too under your definition.

Had the South won, would they still be "traitors?"

Many were highly conflicted men who fought for their homeland -- which they saw as their state as opposed to the United States.

President Lincoln and others who followed chose to heal the scars of war -- not rub salt into them.

He and they were right.
But the South didn't win.


By the way who is this they that you're speaking of?

I also notice that you didn't argue my other points but I will indulge you.

What do you call American citizens that pick up arms against the flag?

I'm not English so how the English view the founding fathers (the 4th of July is a holiday DRENCHED IN HYPOCRISY<see American Indian and Slavery for clarification>) so it's not a issue with me. But since you went there, I guess you can call them traitors. *shrug*


Choosing not to rub salt into the scars of war doesn't lift the cloud of guilt from citizens who chose to take up arms against the United States. Would you be sooooo quick to forgive citizens who pick up arms against the country now? I'm pretty sure that you wouldn't be.

Don't get me wrong, I don't hold grudges against them but, they are what they are.

Alot of these men who led them are traitors because they left the army (after they took a oath of allegience) to fight against the flag. Men like Robert E. Lee, Jefferson Davis, and Stonewall Jackson.


As a man who served under this great flag, I see any attempt to "romanticize" the confederate army as a treachous to the level of people hailing Bin Laden as a hero.