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Originally posted by RACooper
This is a great standard to look to... anything that puts someone in danger - wrong; anything that is designed to humilitae - wrong...
That to me is the basic difference between hazing and indoctrination. Which is the great essential difference between the crap that some chapters pull, and what happens (for the most part) during basic training in the military.
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Well, I can say that I personally witnessed a Drill Sgt standing on the chest of another recruit, yelling at him. BUT, the kid was about to make a mistake on a live-fire range and was putting the whole platoon in danger.
I was thrown up a flight of stairs by a DS, but I was being a douchebag.
The worst that I saw while I was there happened to another platoon. One of them was caught wearing his sweats under his uniform. It was around 10 degrees out with wind chill, but he broke a regulation. The DS's put guards at the door of their platoon bay and they were smoked till all of them fell out. They had to put on all their clothes (including a charcoal-lined chem suit) and were PT'd (Physically Trained) for about 2 hours. We could look through the windows from our bay into theirs. They were crawling through piles of vomit, and that's all I saw because the windows got covered with condensation. One kid lost 12 pounds in those 2 hours. None of them broke regs again though.
Military training isnt the touchy-feely crap you see on Dateline NBC. Those visits are scheduled weeks in advance, and all the dicipline is kept away from the cameras.
But we kept telling ourselves "I'm getting $1,187/month for this".
Well, that, and "I am kicking my recruiter's A$# when I get back!"