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Originally posted by SirHornyToad
Also I'd be interested to know how the "no" was said. Was it said playfully and on the third try she said "oh alright" for all we know if she was that drunk maybe she didn't say no at all, maybe she just felt guilty or someshit the next morning. Maybe she had been seeing that guy for a while and got pissed and decided to do something crazy because she may in fact be crazy. I'm not insensitive to rape, BUT something about this story sounds a little too much like an after school special and a little too drama queen for me.
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Rape is not about the No is about consent. A woman (or a man for that matter) cannot give consent to sex. Maybe this was my college's interp, or maybe its a WI thing. But we were taught that you actually have to say YES to sex. And honestly, as a fraternity guy I'd go by that. What does it matter, in the long run, to not hook up that night? If sex is THAT important, find a girlfriend or someone who is sober and CAN consent.
I'm sorry but this whole 'she's a drama queen' bit just makes me sick. You were not in the room that night, what indication do you have that this girl is not to be believed? Do you know the guy? Just because a young girl is a little wild, it does not give the rights to any horny little boy that comes along to do as she pleases. If she says yes, (though she's a minor in this case) fine, but if there is any no, or hesitation on her part it is just wrong.
Also, do you know what actually happens to that girl who claims she was raped? The fight to get someone to believe you, to make decisions regarding prosecution, the exam, facing all your friends, and then facing him and his brothers/friends. It can be the worst experience for a young woman to go through. /soapbox