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Originally posted by _Opi_
Ok here is the thing though. Did I say anywhere in my previous posts that he deserved what he got? I don't think so...Did I say his life is worth less than another human being? I don't think so..but here is the thing, the law is supposed to deal with lunatics who kill other people. I believe in justice and all that good stuff. If you want to go into condeming the murder, well that's a whole other story. Here is what I said on my first post: "However, a murder is a murder. And a terrorist attack is a terrorist attack. So I hope that justice does prevail."
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Here is what you also said in your first post:
"This is the first time I'm reading about this. I personally couldn't care less if that dutch filmmaker was murdered or not. There's one thing to make a movie about muslim women being abused, and another to portray a naked women with the Koran written all over her body. ...all in the name of art, I guess."
This statement tacitly implies that he did, in fact, deserve what he got, in your opinion. If you want me to break down connotation vs. denotation here, I will, b/c I realize English isn't your first language, but it is hard for me to believe that this paragraph isn't dismissive of his death as being something he earned through disrespectful action, and that you'll write off his despicable actions as 'all in the name of art, I guess' . . .
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Originally posted by _Opi_
I on the other hand will not mourn for that man because he is an artist and a van gogh. and if that makes me an extremist...then the boundaries for that word has just been widened, and I'm sure many people will fall under that category.
If I was a christian and someone depicted Mary as you described, hell yeah I would be offended. I still wouldn't pick up a weapon to kill that artist.
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Interesting - now we must draw a line in the sand, the man doing the shooting is the extremist . . . how about the organization that he is a part of? What about the community that fosters these organizations? And finally, how about the person who tacitly approves of his death, but not of the killer? Definitely not for me to say, but it's akin to the classic koan . . . how many grains of sand are a pile? one? two?
This inconsistency (that might not be the correct word, perhaps i mean "disconnect") is my problem with your response - you're perfectly willing to call the man an extremist (which he was, I'd say), but when confronted with your own statements you twist them into something they are obviously not. Face up to it, address it directly (as kitso did), and we all move on - otherwise, it's pissing at the rain, and it's a bit strange to watch. I'm not saying
you are an extremist - just saying to run with your feelings, even if we don't agree, even if people react harshly, b/c otherwise it's hard to take the thread seriously at all.
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Originally posted by _Opi_
As for the person who did kill that man, he would be an extremist.
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And finally - high five!