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Old 11-05-2004, 01:49 PM
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Originally posted by AGDee
I am absolutely apalled that Clinton told Kerry that, if in fact it occurred. However, what I heard Kerry say numerous times was that although he didn't personally believe in gay marriage, he didn't think there should be a Constitutional amendment restricting it based on the philosophy that the Constitution shouldn't restrict rights.

I noted numerous times that Michigan's proposal was to amend our State Constitution. I am EXTREMELY disappointed that the state I live in voted that way and have voiced that. It passed by a huge margin. It could make some people feel like they can't win and may as well leave. And, not only did it ban same sex marriage, it banned any type of union and effectively eliminated the opportunity for same sex partners to share employement benefits. Yes, I'm hugely disillusioned by the Democrats who voted for this amendment.

Overall though, I'm referring to many more issues than just gay marriage.

Every Democrat I know thinks that both Michael Moore and Al Sharpton are way off base. Just as I recognize that every Republican is not Pat Robertson or Rush Limbaugh. Defining either group by their extremists is not wise nor accurate.

Dee
Really? Perhaps you weren't watching the DNC when Al Sharpton was embraced and gave a speech at the convention. And perhaps you haven't noticed the oh-so-many Michael Moore opened my eyes threads even on Greekchat. Those are just two people and what they've said and done offends me because of my background and religious/cultural identity. That is why I am baffled, over and over, as to why my people identify with this party. But then I remember Republican James Baker saying "Fuck the Jews" and it dawns on me that again, this isn't about right and wrong.

And yes, Clinton did say that but there was no row over it and while you may say you're upset right now about how some Democrats are against gay marriage, you didn't make the biggest issue of it. That is how I see it.

And of course there were more issues than gay marriage (gay marriage is something that Kerry wouldn't touch if he was president IMO), but it's gay marriage that a select few GC'ers are on the rampage about right now.

-Rudey
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