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Old 10-29-2004, 02:10 PM
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Who used Fox as gospel? Regardless, it's funny that only Fox gets this treatment but nobody scream if people use any other network as gospel.

You don't have to buy a survey (not mine so don't try and throw ownership on anyone) but a) it is not a survey b) it is the best study if not the only study so you can't seem to show your point through any strong tangible piece of evidence (btw if congress is "basically conservative itself" perhaps you should consider the Americans who voted for congress to be that way, but this matters not one bit) c) if you can make these statistics say anything you want and do magical things with numbers I do encourage you to run a simple regression on excel (no need for SPSS or anything).

You say Fox news is the exception and that "leadership doesn't influence bias levels" at other networks based on "not a scientific survey". I think that the moon is based on cheese based on a couple pictures I saw and not on a scientific survey.

And I'm not even endeared to Fox. WTF do I care about Fox? Fox Sports is great. TV news media itself aside from a few programs depleted the brain of any intelligence. I am not a die-hard, I love Fox fan.

-Rudey

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Originally posted by DeltAlum
I have no animosity toward Fox. As I've said before, I have a number of friends who work for them. I've been to their newsroom. I've interviewed for jobs with the entertainment (owned stations) division (which has nothing to do with Fox NewsChannel) in New York and Chicago.

What I have animosity for is people who look at something FOX and consider it gospel.

I don't buy your "less biased" survey because it started off with the US Congress as its midpoint. Congress is basically conservative itself, so I think the survey leans right to begin with. Again, as I said many posts ago, you can make a survey say pretty much anything you want it to. I'll be you or I could take their same data and come to totally different conclusions. Ask the drug industry.

I would agree that in MOST situations leadership doesn't influence bias levels. FoxNews is the exception -- along with Sinclair Media. While this is not a scientific survey, Fox is the ONLY organization I have ever heard of where current and former employees have said that it is the only place they have worked where the management's political agenda was know and pushed through the editorial process.

None of the networks is perfect -- consider what happened recently to CBS -- but none of the others have been charged with being a "mouthpiece" for a political party.

I have worked for TV stations that belong to each of the major networks -- and worked for NBC for 14 years. I think NBC and GE (its corporate owner) are fairly conservative. Certainly Bob Wright (whom I've also met) is. It just isn't as blatant.
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