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Old 10-25-2004, 11:32 AM
Rudey Rudey is offline
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It's not up to you to restrict his freedom of speech.

You haven't addressed the fact that he may have been in the same physical state as her and both took on a risk to make decisions they wouldn't normally take when they put that liquor to their lips.

-Rudey

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Originally posted by ISUKappa
Rob, are you referring to this?


If what James posted is true about the guy going around telling how "freaky" this girl was in bed, then, in my opinion, he is admitting he was coherent as to what was going on and couldn't have been as drunk or messed up. If he is completely lying about the entire incident (meaning he was as drunk or messed up) then not only is he disrespecting this girl, he's also doing more harm to himself by saying what he's saying. I'll admit, I'll never fully understand how guys work, but why not just say "I was completely trashed and I don't really know what happened" and leave it at that.

Sincere or not, I think a letter of apology is helpful -- it makes the guy put into concrete words what happened and it can help alleviate the guilt felt by the girl (if she feels any). I know I would have appreciated a written letter of apology.

Okay, so question for the men: If an incident like this occurred in your chapter house and you know what really happened (let's say the guy had been drinking but wasn't wasted, he knew what he was doing, the girl was incoherent and could not give consent at all), how would you deal with it? What would you like to see be done about it? What would help to lessen the chances of something like this happening again?
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