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Old 06-08-2001, 01:37 PM
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Originally posted by AXO Alum:
Not only am I 100% for the death penalty, I am 100% for the death being carried out in the same manner that the criminal (shocking word isn't it!) killed his/her victim!

That's why you weren't elected to such a position. However should you feel your radical views are right, then you might want to look into what the Taliban has in terms of employment.


Some fool here robbed a woman who was 8+ months pregnant -- he hit her in the head repeatedly, and she died a very slow death, and also the death of the child (whom the doctors determined was viable at that point) - where is he now? Sitting in the state pen for "life" -- which we all know is 25 years plus time served for "good" behavior.

Yes, I do love the "We all know" statements. We all know is what an ignorant uneducated person says. I don't want to sound harsh (and I know you're going to think I'm a jerk) but until you start looking at statistics on crime sentences and the percentage of life sentences reduced to such a low number, please don't tell me what "We all know". That is what you think...not know...and not something "we" all think.

He has access to better recreational equipment than some of our city parks have to offer -- he has food 3 times a day plus the opportunity to buy cigarettes not to mention access to cable tv and a library -- and even the internet.

Spoken like an amateur politician. I guarantee that you won't feel this way if you take a tour of the jail and do some more research. And the parks with bad recreational facilities, are they in your neighborhood or would they more likely be located in a high crime area? He has food 3 times a day? God forbid such a thing. I can't imagine anyone getting food 3 times a day. And the opportunity to buy cigarettes? Key word being buy. Yes he sure does. That's his money, not yours. Cable tv? Cute. Let me guess they all watch Sex in the city right? A library? The library is there for 2 reasons. 1) To help a prisoner plan his own defense through knowledge of legal statutes and 2) Education so when that kid who made a stupid mistake of stealing something can rehabilitate himself. The internet? Yeah, I'm sure all the cells have T1 connections. You obviously think that prisoners are allowed to roam freely. Having an hour to see the sun each day would be more like it.

I volunteer for a battered women's shelter, and there are women and children there who by absolutely no fault of their own struggle to live each day with what the shelter can provide while the real criminal is locked up at a Motel 6! Someone please please please tell me where the justice is there?

Once again, I'd like to see what you are basing this on. Don't tell me you heard it in the news. Show me a hard fact that prison is like the "Motel 6". You're not fulling benefiting from volunteer work if that's the only conclusion you could come up with.

And what the hell is up with PAYING them to do work for the community? I don't care if its a nickel on the hour -- why am I paying them for a crime they committed?

Such a statement...you'd think you would try to understand something before you blast it away. They work for private enterprises generally. And if, very iffy if, they were allowed to work for the community, why shouldn't they? I guess the applications to help fix something with my community have soared this year and nobody can get a job. Let me guess, these prisoners all have high paying IT jobs. They make $1/hr and beg to work because life in jail is so hard.

A professor once asked me, when she learned how strongly I favor the death penalty, "Could you pull the switch?" -- My answer -- YES! Without a moment's hesitation.

Wow. Good for you. I draw 2 conclusions from this. 1) You have some serious problems. and 2) This is the more probable one: You talk the talk, but I doubt you would do anything more than talk. And if you did, I'm sure you would regret doing it and never do it again. I'd be willing to bet a good deal of money on this one but unfortunately there'd be no way to test you out.

(and most of you know that I am a vegetarian and animal rights advocate so I'm not some looney on the loose wanting to kill things) -

Animal rights people kill. Animal rights people destroy millions of dollars in property because they feel their opinions are the right ones. But anyway, maybe you should examine why you care for animals...why you're a vegetarian. Look deep. If you can answer this in 5 minutes, you're not looking deep enough.

- Timothy McVeigh -- I'd be more than happy to do the honors and not blink. Susan Smith (SC mom who drowned her 2 young sons by strapping them in their car seats and driving them into a lake because her "boyfriend" didn't want to be tied down to children) -- please let me strap her in a car and drive her in a lake -- that's what she deserves.

My cousin, at 2 years old, was killed by a drunk driver - the driver got a $75 fine and a few hours community service --- that's it. She also went on to be involved in another incident also killing someone else -- no jail time. I would love to put her in a car, and hit her with such force that her head is almost completely removed from her body the way Becky's was.

But you're right -- that woman didn't do anything wrong and she must have really learned after that whopping $75 fine since she went out and killed someone else.

I can't tell you how much I am sorry about this. There is no way for someone to even express the pain and emotions resulting from the loss of life...

I don't care about cost -- the cost of a life cannot ever ever ever be compared to the cost of keeping someone alive or executing them. The real "cost" is to the families and friends who have lost everything because some idiot was stupid enough to "play God" him/her self and take a life. I think that the best prison I've ever seen documented is the one that Woody Harrelson's father is in -- they are in solitary lock-up 23 hours a day, with one hour solitary exercise. As for rapes and brutal beatings in prison? Cry me a freaking river --

Now let's all play God. Not only is playing "God" not something you can do my mortal friend, but sometimes playing "God" leads to mistakes. There are already so many cases of innocent men who were found guilty and executed. As I said in my earlier post, I'm allowed to hold you guilty over their deaths and sentence you to a similar sentence for supporting such a thing...no?

I am very sorry that I came off as so offensive in this post. Please forgive me for that...I never meant it. But I don't think you've seen one person die. I don't think you've ever seen a murder. I don't think you've ever seen a war. I think you live a very sheltered life where presumptions beginning with "We all now" are all too easy to make. You are entitled to your opinions just as much as a prisoner is entitled to his rights as a human being though...so take advantage of that. You may however want to hold off on your opinions until you get certain facts straight.

I'm done ranting.

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