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Old 10-11-2004, 03:04 PM
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RACooper,

Ahhh . .. see . . . now that was a mistake. I have rather carefully refrained from commenting on your IQ How can you criticise Rudey when you are just as likely to make an objective issue personal?

And I actually am serious. Lets look at it totally from the view point of Israel and the security of their nation. Lets also take a historical military context , which you should know better than I.

They have militarily won the battle. There are no more set piece engagements. There are no more direct confrontations of regular army. They are facing a situation where the enemy have melted into the subject population to the point of being indivisible from them.

The population gives them a base to hide in and supplies them with both an inexhaustible supply of personel as well as weapons and consumables.

Two historical examples.

IF you will recall the Napoleanic Wars, one of the major problems that Napolean had was that he fought war in the European way where he defeated the enemies armies but left those countries with the capacity and man-power to field other armies within a very short time period.

This would oblige him to have to fight them again and again essentially paying for the same ground multiple times until he and France were so worn down they collapsed. (I am simplifying, obviously).

In other words Napolean and France eventually lost.

If you recollect Caesar's Gallic Commentaries you will recall that Gaul united and fought Caesar even after being first defeated and in the face of amazing clemency from Caesar. Can't blame them, they perceived him as a foreign invader.

Caesar eventually turned to harsh measures. Tribes that attacked him were reduced to nothing. Most of the men of military age were killed, the lands themselves were burned.

At the final decisive battle of Uxellodunum Caesar spared the surrendering soliders' lives but as an example cut off both hands of somewhere near four thousand of them and distributed those handlless people all over Gaul as a reminder.

IT effectively ended the Gallic Wars and Gaul was so pacified that it didn't even need a garrison.

Israel has tried harsh security measures, it has tried clemency and it has failed to maintain secuirty for its people.

What would you do RAcooper if you were the leader of Israel and your people were dying?

Its an academic discussion for us, but its a matter of life and death for them.





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Originally posted by RACooper
The more Palestinians they kill the better? Are you seriously that ignorant!????? A comment like that sounds just like something Hamas or their supporters would say about the Israelis....

Wow from the ignorance of Optimist Prime to yours... nice to see this thread bringing out the closet nut-cases...

Last edited by James; 10-11-2004 at 03:07 PM.
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