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Originally posted by KSig RC
please answer in order:
1) who is the last human being to use WMD?
2) is the terrorist culture confined to any one nation, region, or government? -or- rather, is it spread across the entire region?
3) is iraq better off (long-term) without a brutal, dehumanizing dictatorship?
4) are there deeper ramifications to invading N. Korea than those w/ Iraq?
5) would US citizens, and citizens of the world, live safer lives with a stablized Middle East?
Simply put, the danger of what 'could happen' is an overwhelmingly good 'excuse' for attempting to stablize the second most dangerous region in the world - and make no mistakes, an unstable middle east presents a far more immediate threat to American citizens than North Korea, which is the far more dangerous long-term threat.
I do agree, coincidently, with your assessment of the dangers of North Korea - but there is this little issue of say China, just to start . . . there's no way to enter North Korea. Clinton knew this, by the way, which is how we get to today.
Now, no one likes death of american soldiers - and you are right that the al-Qaeda members that attacked were not Iraqi. But this is a step toward stablizing a region that is infested with bullshit - and this is the ONLY step that could come first. What, you think we could just waltz into Iran or Saudi arabia? While we do that, why not just send 4 or 5 guys to pop North Korea too, oh and on the way they can form an alliance with China and eliminate Chechan rebels.
Now who's living in a fantasy world? Look, Bush didn't do things perfectly, but stop acting like there's nothing positive here, and stop making emotional arguments about death a part of rational discussion. It makes you look like a fool.
And while you guys are harping on FACTS!!!!11!1 you might want to find some facts to support your assertions and stop using immaterial shit like 'pride' and 'knew since he got in office' that are impossible to support.
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Ummmm, I just posted a article, where do you see assertions? Please find a way to dispute the article.
The United States didn't go to war because Saddam is a brutal dictator.
We went to War because of WMD (THE MAIN REASON) which what was fed to most of Congress (sidenote, that is why I can excuse Senator Kerry for voting for the war). People WE knew what Saddam had.
KSig, where's the positive for the AMERICAN people. Saddam was just a mini-midget dictator who was only a danger to his own people. Sure I'm happy for the folks in Iraq but trust they would've gotten this man when they got ready. It wasn't our job to meddle in others affair. But since we're on that tip, how come US soldiers aren't in the Sudan kicking azz? (insert spin here)
But since sicne you went there, our problem didn't make residence in Iraq. None of the terrorist who hit us on 9/11 or onboard of the US Cole were Iraqis. It's like fighting a Alpha because a Sigma slapped you in the face.
AND THE SPIN CONTINUES
Fellas just find a way to dispute the article, no need for attacks. Admit it, Bush was wrong and let us move on.
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