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Old 10-02-2004, 09:54 PM
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Let me ask you something. Did bush flip-flop and change his answer over and over again to basically try and appeal to every voting population on the 9/11 commission?

To me the Iraq warn and Kerry's flip-flopping on it was important because it presents a path I don't want to see. More importantly, this is an issue I have with his Israel policy. He has attacked Israel and supported Arafat among some crowds and then sends his brother over to Israel and publishes a memo to say that he is strongly pro-Israel. Put all the damn politics aside. I read 2 newspapers every day from Israel alone. I am someone who is alive because of the country and its alliance with America. For me that flip-flop is presenting a risk that makes me very scared. I'm sorry but I can't accept it. Had Kerry not made the comments he did, I'd honestly be very confused because he is essentially presenting Bush's policies as his own in Iraq and saying he would be very pro-Israel. It would be very difficult for me to decide who to vote for based on foreign policy then. But this isn't the case.

You brought up Arafat and you're completely correct. This terrorist should have been killed in Libya when Israel had him in the target of a rifle but America didn't allow it. At the same time, this isn't just America. America is not the sole country in this world. The world would not allow this. America has supported Israel at very high levels and worked to isolate Arafat who has stolen from his own people. But it is the countries in the EU that meet with Arafat. It is France that hosts his wife. It was France that managed to introduce a bloody murderer into Iran named the Ayatollah, France that supports this shit bag, and France that propped up Saddam hussein. However why don't you look at what else is happening under Bush. Israel is withdrawing from lands formerly occupied by Egypt and Jordan and heavily populated by Arabs. What has Kerry said he would do with Arafat?? I will tell you that he's presented comment at 2 ends of the spectrum and I'm unwilling to accept that risk.

On Iran, America has been the striving force to confront Iran over its intentions. It was Bush who pushed European countries in the UN and the IEAE to confront the topic. It was America that released intelligence on their nuclear weapons pursuits. The thing is though that Iran, along with Iraq, and North Korea need to start being confronted by the world. It can't be America that constantly does the right thing while Europeans wash their hands with innocent blood over a little money.

At the end of the day it seems none of these topics will even be touched until after the election.

-Rudey


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Originally posted by phikappapsiman
I am curious about something that I hope a Bush supporter can answer. I know that one of the central themes of the Bush campaign has been how Sen. Kerry "flip-flops" on critical issues, while Bush has been firm in his convictions-which is the hallmark of a true commander in chief, according to most Republicans I have heard. But, didn't Bush oppose the 9/11 commission before it convened, but now he accepts its conclusions-which really point to the failures of his intelligence people since it did happen on BUSH'S watch? And since it happened, who took the blame for it? Was anyone fired? Rumsfeld? Rice? Cheney? Anyone???

And what about Yasser Arafat and the PLO? The U.S. is still funding money to him, even though we know that it's not going to the Palestinians who really need it, but into Arafat's pockets. Obviously Bush knows that we are basically funding Arafat's terrorists activities, so Arafat is killing with our money. Why? And before any of you say it doesn't matter what Arafat does, or how it affects the U.S., I say that if we put ourselves in the position of being the world's peacekeepers, it does directly affect us, because the war on terror is a global war.

And if nuclear poliferation really is important in the war on terror, then what is Bush going to do about Iran? Bush did say that Iran is in the "Axis of Evil" with Iraq and North Korea. And really, the whole world knows that Iran is on the verge of becoming nuclear, just like North Korea. While I agree that the U.S. doesn't need approval from France or any other EU country, how will he disarm Iran? Get Israel to take them out? Send troops to Iran?

To me, these are some of the things that are important to me. And since President Bush's message to me is that he is the one to trust to fight the war on terror, I would like to see some discussion about this by some Bush supporters...
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