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Originally posted by CasanovaAPQ
well to me it take more than you natural knowledge of a fraternity to be a brother, making brother even at the black universities isnt always about hazing, there are certain things that being in a greek org you will never know how to do with out being taught from a brother. Yes the individual has to want and have the qualities but all in all we need to make them see, most people arent going to learn if not taught, i have met those people to that i would be great additions to the org but they still have to learn about the fraternity and they knowledge only comes from brothers. you cannot be a brother without knowing what the fraternity means, secrets etc... no matter how much service you do or how much you love APO your not a brother until a brother makes you one. You need to go through the ceremony, etc... I hope you understand what i am saying. Making a brother is someone going through a process. that we put them through.
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Preciousjeni,
I'm going to assume this is a response to my last message and go from there.
IMO, CasanovaAPQ, we both agree that someone is not a brother until they have gone through the initiation ceremony (honoraries are another issue).
However an advisor to a chapter is just as much a brother as you and I, and they go through no process. At least five of the Fraternity's National presidents include the Chief never went through the pledging process as they first affiliated as advisors. I don't believe they were less than they could be in the fraternity because they never went through a process.
I still point to those brothers who started chapters like Eta Omicron to indicate that the process run by other brothers is not a necessity to make brothers that we can be proud of, however the fraternity today does attempt to add pledging-like characteristics to the chartering/rechartering process including the existance of the Petitioning Group Ceremony, Petitioning Pins and when possible Big Brother chapters and Big Brothers to individual Petitioners from the PG from the BB chapter.
Randy