[PrettyKittieJ]

It is now obvious to me that no matter what I say from here on out until When/IF I get my letters is going to be scruntinized and disected and if that is the way that YOUR chapter rolls then so be it, but that is not how it goes on down here....

Here I may speak my opinion IF a Brother feels that it is valid - to me - and the Brother who is in the Chapter where I am pledging, APhiOKUGrl - did not see it as a problem at all - b/c I do have an understanding from both sides. I took to her for counsel before I made the very first post.

As has been said previously the first post was the reply to a question, I made a valid point and I have experience to back it up - thats why I made it.

As for the identity comment - that is your opinion and the way you see it. I believe that during the pledging process you learn things about yourself and you are different. I dont mean it has you completely change and you go from one extreme to another. But this is now a part of you and you are a different person than when you began the process.

As for the "pledge has no rights" comment - maybe I didnt word this correctly as to my particular thought. It is my belief that pledges earn their rights within the organization. Of course you dont take their rights away - thats crazyness. But you are GRANTED certain rights, responsilbilites and obligations once you receive your letters that you have EARNED through the pledging process. There for the words "pledge" and "new member" for the reasons above do not equal each other.

And FINALLY - as for the "so you can learn where we are coming from without being on the defensive and having your girl back you up instead of helping you see where we're coming from." comment -

Im not being defensive - some of you are picking your favorite phrases from my posts and making a mockery of them. I am going to defend myself and my words if I feel that they are being misconstrued and misrepresented - so if thats being "defensive" so be it.

And I am not having "my girl" back me up. APhiOKUGrl is one of my Big Brothers - just as she is YOUR Brother. And seeing as she is in such a position she can be unbiased and see both sides - its just obvious that she agrees with me and see's my point from a view that you and some others are unable to find.