You know OTW, Amy & Car - I got your backs but I think all states have their bad points and good points. I think though that Jeff is just pointing out the bad and not thinking of all the wonderful things that California has to offer!! Jeff, I live an hour from NYC and I love it too but also hate the crime and whack jobs who push women into subway tracks, hit them with bricks on the head and a road that you can't even cross without getting hit by a car - - so just remember - all places have the good and the bad!