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Originally posted by KSig RC
All good points - i didn't use KSU b/c you were discussing the Big8 south, so i was providing counterpoint.
Althon's rankings? we'll see how it plays out - Mizzou and TU have long-standing history of being overrated pre-season (plus i don't think even Rich Rodriguez would put WVU at #5 all season...).
Anyway, we'll get back to the discussion- I obviously was using a little bit of hyperbole in the bigeast discussion, but the Big8 is horrendously overrated every year. I will stand by my statement that w/out OU they are a decidedly mediocre conference, and that they are not ANYWHERE above the big10 or SEC in terms of their programs, which has been claimed on numerous occasions.
And Texas Tech sucks, do not ever bring that to me ever again. They just don't win big games against good competition. It's a system; how many TTU players are currently playing in the pros?
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TTU is a mystery... They beat Texas more often than Texas beats them... but that's Texas for ya. If someone wants to beat TTU, just look at what Oklahoma does to them. Everytime OU's played 'em, they've been totally shut down.
With the talent they recruit at Texas, it's hard not to rank them in the top 10. But the coaching is just pitiful. They've changed DC's, but I'd say it's their HC that is the problem.
As for the Big 10, I'd say it's debatable. They have their cupcakes -- Indiana and Northwestern. They only really have two teams that are perennial contenders for the NC -- Michigan and Ohio State. I'd say the Big XII has its two perennial contenders and then a few more "outside shots" than does the Big 10 in Nebraska, K-State, A&M. Laugh at me now, but A&M will be back this year. Francione basically sacrificed last year by redshirting most of the players that were worth a crap with the exception of their QB, McNeal.
I think the Big XII will be a very different conference this year. Not on par with the SEC, but it's starting to get pretty close. In 2-3 years, it'll be a much scarier minefield.
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By the way, just watched USC drop to Cal-Berkley on ESPN Classics. Yeah, what a great team. Maybe they'll get knocked off this year by Arizona.