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Old 08-02-2004, 07:44 PM
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Originally posted by Eclipse
Who decides what is classified as "lazy and irresponsible"?
Someone spoke earlier of a person who was unemployed with no health insurance who got sick. You asked why she was unemployed. Let's look at some possibilities:

What if the person just graduated from college and although they have been applying for positions they have not found one with benefits yet? This person is working a temp job to pay the bills, but most temp jobs do not provide benefits?

What if the person quit a job to take care of an ailing relative, like say a grandmother because the grandmother did not have the funds to pay for a nursing home (and in your world, there would probably be no medicare or medicaid)?

What if the person is out of work because after 15 - 20 years on their job their company decided that it would be cheaper for her job to be done in India, so they moved them offshore?

What if she dropped out of high school, had a baby. What if she previously worked the morning shift at McDonalds (making $6.00--which is more than minimum wage), but because of unreliable, unaffordable day care (she tries to get relatives to keep the baby for free but they have jobs/things to do and she can't afford the $75 a week for day care) and unreliable transportation (she can't afford a car, so she has to take 2 buses and the subway/train to get to her job), she got fired and is now unemployed.


What if she was an "off the books" baby sitter" for working people in her neighborhood, so she did not get benefits?

What if she watched soaps all day, ate bon-bons (what the heck are bon-bons anyway?) and had not intentions of working or looking for a job?

Which one of these ladies would not be deemed lazy and irresponsible? Which one(s) would be deserving of help if she got sick?


A couple of things....

First off, the temp worker should start looking for a job elsewhere. It might not be in the field they want but wouldnt it be smart to look for something else if one thing isnt working or giving them what they want?

The person that quit the job because of an ailing relative.....I think the ailing relative would understand if you told them you wont be able to pay the bills if you quit the job. Everyone has sick people in their family...this is why you dont depend on the government for funds. You set money off to the side in case something like that happens. Social Security is a crock of shit. It is completely stupid to work your whole life, not save money up for your retirement and then depend on social security/medicare/medicade to help you through your times of ailment. And despite all that.....I know its hard to see a loved one go through sickness. But shit, there is a thing called natural selection. Its nature's way of doing things.

The worker....you do have a point. I think jobs should stay here in America. I think we should be doing more exporting than importing. But, the worker doesnt run the company. If he doesnt want to move to India, then go somewhere else. You think the people in Germany like the fact that there are Americans working for VolksWagen? Or they like the fact that Deutsche Bank employs a lot of Americans while their economy sucks ass right now? No, they dont. Fact is, thats just how things work in a global economy. Most americans have a couple career changes in their life time anyway.

The mother who worked at Mcdonalds....she should have had an abortion if she couldn't afford to support her baby or had relatives that could help her. Its plain stupid to have a child when you've dropped out of highschool and work at Mcdonalds. Its not fair to the child to bring it in to such a world. Or, she should have given it up for adoption if she couldnt afford the abortion.


The baby sitter...how the hell are you going to ask a couple to give you benefits from watching their kids for an evening????? The dumb brod should go look for a real job.

Last edited by cashmoney; 08-02-2004 at 07:51 PM.
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