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Old 08-02-2004, 06:30 PM
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Originally posted by ktsnake
I'm not going to respond to each "what if" you have listed there. Rest assured I can come up with equal "what if's" where lazy people just take advantage of the system.

Did I say that I was against ALL government programs? Nope. I recall expressly stating that I was all for some of them. And the text that you quoted "What I am against is redistribution of the wealth and rewarding laziness and irresponsibility. " Doesn't have a damned thing to do with your what-if's. You're reading between the lines too much and putting words into my mouth/ascribing beliefs to me that I simply did not mention.

Bon-bons = french for candy.

My employer currently doesn't provide healthcare. I pay for my own at around $110/month through Blue Cross Blue Shield. Your all-cash babysitter (who probably doesn't pay taxes) is going to get what she deserves for not paying into the system in my opinion.

And yes, dropping out of HS to work at McDonalds to support a child is idiotic. People are able to make it through college and even get professional degrees in the same circumstances. It's all about personal initiative. And yes, it does have something to do with raw material. Why should I be penalized if someone lacks either of those things?
You brought up the question in your previous posts. You asked:

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Why is she unemployed?

How did she get sick?

Why is there no one that wants to help take care of her?

Sounds like she probably lacks personal responsibility and should be accountable for her decisions.
My bad, I didn't know you did not truly want possible answers to these questions.

My point was, who decides what is lazy and irresponsible? I had 3 job offers with I graduated from college. I might think that the recent college graduate was lazy and irresponsible because she did not have a job before she graduated. I might think it was irresponsible to quit a job, even if it was to take care of a sick relative (I did this by the way, when I was in my mid 20s. Many people told me it was irresponsible.)

Again, who decides what is lazy and irresponsible (and yes, I'd like an answer to that question)? There are already safeguards in the system to keep people from abusing the system by making up kids, having additional kids to get additional money, staying on the system for many many years without a "legitimate" excuse. Is it perfect, no, but name one instituation with humans involved that is.

I've never had a fire at my house that required calling the fire department. Neither have, to my knowledge, have my parents, my sister, my inlaws, my husband's 5 siblings or my grandparents. Regardless of this, my taxes still pay for fire services, whether I want it or not, whether I agree with it or not. It's for our greater good.
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