joja; the statement came from a non Blue and White person. Also, I cannot consider this information about Blue and White as learning something new because it is actually false. If my friend had claimed that this was something unofficial that was recognized in a certain area, I would not have posted or started this thread. Im quite sure that you would not want someone to make a claim about your org that was false even if it were only believed by a few. To respond to someone else's question, I wouldn't have a problem with Betas or Gammas being our cousins so long as it was uniformly acknowledged in the same respect as the rest of the B&W family. It does little service to either org. to have something recognized in some places and not all.