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Originally posted by sugar and spice
1) B. was not using his cancer as an excuse for being an ass. In fact, that was the only time I can ever remember mentioning it to GC. He only told a handful of people on GC that he had it and he told most of us to shut up about it. So in fact, I would say that he was doing the exact opposite of using it as an excuse for being an ass.
2) I have no problem with you having a relationship with Hootie. I do think some of the circumstances surrounding your friendship are humorous, and I'm certainly not the only one. If you or she can't deal with that, either don't do what you did or don't let other people find out about it.
3) OK, so first anyone who belongs to a GC clique gets blamed for being obnoxious. Then as this thread goes on, it's made clear that this is mostly directed at the H&A. Recent posts have made it obvious that some of you are just harboring some personal vendettas against mods who may or may not have been H&A (I am guessing Kath and Sandy, but whatever, because I'm not a mod so I have no idea what went down in there) -- so why can't this be addressed via PM to them instead of airing your issues to the entire board? And why can't Hootie fight her own battles instead of getting other people to fight them for her? IMO she has taken the best course of action possible from this -- she got tired of the board, so she left without drama.
4) I don't think Kath goes looking isht anymore than you do, but I suppose that's a matter of personal opinion.
5) I think you're very much denying your role in the ongoing feud that you think we perpetuate. I can't remember the last time that I (personally) have said anything nasty to you that wasn't provoked. Yet you continue to make snide jabs like the ones in the state capital thread that make it clear that you're harboring some bitterness -- obviously I don't take them all that personally, but if I have some people that I'm friendly with and they think you're attacking me unprovoked they're going to make jabs back. You can't say "I'm innocent, I'm innocent -- except for those three or four times."
6) You know what? Some of the people responding to this thread in support of the H&A AREN'T H&A -- they just like us. Some of the fake personalities are not H&A girls (Internet Lawyer being the example that comes to mind first -- I know that'll surprise a few of you). In fact, I imagine there is not a single one of you on GC who knows who is even considered to be a part of this "clique." Hell, even half of the H&A themselves couldn't. And there are, of course, lots of people on this board who are plenty nasty who have no tie to us whatsoever. There are people who had a hand in driving many people off this board who have no ties to us whatsoever. I remember a recent incident where a member of this board accused Kath of something she hadn't committed, something that this member had no proof she had committed, and tried to get her demodded for it. AFAIK, no apologies were ever made to Kath. It's like the second anything mean happens, it's all of us who get blamed for it -- even when most or none of us aren't even involved with it.
Which is fine -- I can't change y'all's opinions and I don't really care too much one way or another. But I really wish that you would do some rethinking before you automatically point fingers at "the H&A" when you couldn't even name half the people who are associated with that label.
At any rate, I'm out of this thread because it has become way too unfun for me -- y'all can always reach me via PM if you have any more issues to address.
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Well written, Heather. I pretty much agree.
If you guys want to label yourselves EE, who cares- that's awesome. Good for you. If it makes people feel comfortable, thats wonderful. I am getting frustrated, though, by you using the H&A label in coordination with the fake personalities, LJ's, etc. I know who did most of those things...and none of them were members of 'our' clique.
Straight up, no mistaking, we were called 'stereotypical sorority bitches" in this thread. PLEASE find a thread on GC where we've done the same to any of you. Find me some proof. Anyone who's ever kidded around with us has become 'one' of us if they wanted...(the reason why the H&A is so huge and I'm not understanding how we could be more accepting. )All I'm saying is that you're so convinced that we're so nasty, lampooning, mean...you might want to make sure you're not doing the same. Because at the end of the day, I know I don't have the time in my day or desire to use people's real names or create fake ljs. And I'd really appreciate not being associated with that.